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On 9/20/2023 at 9:45 PM, Dave Williams said:


Dual Shrike launchers existed from the F-105G era, but were not liked because of vibration when only one missile was fired.

Veering a bit further down the dual Shrike detour: F-105G dual rails were actually borrowed on a rush basis and fitted to the RAF Vulcan bombers that flew the long range 'Black Buck' missions from the UK to the Falklands in 1982 (Airfix has just released a new boxing with the AGM-45s and pylons added)

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1 hour ago, Quixote74 said:

Veering a bit further down the dual Shrike detour: F-105G dual rails were actually borrowed on a rush basis and fitted to the RAF Vulcan bombers that flew the long range 'Black Buck' missions from the UK to the Falklands in 1982 (Airfix has just released a new boxing with the AGM-45s and pylons added)


Correct about the Airfix Vulcan, but as an FYI, Airfix screwed the pooch on the new Black Buck parts.  They made a very long pylon for the ALQ-101 because they misinterpreted a photo of an ALQ-101 sitting on a trolley under the aircraft and misinterpreted one of the MLG doors in the background as being part of the pylon that attached the pod to the wing.  Also, you get a pair of dual Shrike rails that are identical in the kit, but in reality they were handled with different versions used for under the left or right wing.  The Shrikes and ALQ-101 are pretty poor too.

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Since we are talking about Dual Launcher Adapters (DLA), the USN had a DLA that was used (rarely) on the A-4 Skyhawk (station 2 and 4) and tested on the A-7 Corsair.

 

The adapters were called the ADU-316/A (LH) and the ADU-315/A (RH) that allowed two AERO-5A-1/-2, AERO-5B or ADU-299 (w/LAU-7) to be mounted. This allowed either two AGM-45 Shrike's or two AIM-9 Sidewinder's to be loaded.

 

There is a picture of the adapter with a AERO-5B (says it's a 5A but it's really a 5B) and a ADU-299/LAU-7 loaded on an A-7 while being tested in 1975 at China Lake;

http://www.chinalakealumni.org/1975/1975mo.htm#thumb

(it's the 14th picture from the bottom.

 

I've seen few pics of the DLA being used A-4's with two Shrikes loaded on it. I also have the maintenance manual for the ADU-315/-316 that shows a drawing of it and it's break down.

 

Not sure if the USAF ever used them but the USN did use them occasionally on A-4's and they were tested on A-7's in the 70's.

 

Thought I's throw out some info on the USN's DLA since we are talking about Shrike Dual Luanchers.

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22 hours ago, Dave Williams said:


Correct about the Airfix Vulcan, but as an FYI, Airfix screwed the pooch on the new Black Buck parts.  They made a very long pylon for the ALQ-101 because they misinterpreted a photo of an ALQ-101 sitting on a trolley under the aircraft and misinterpreted one of the MLG doors in the background as being part of the pylon that attached the pod to the wing.  Also, you get a pair of dual Shrike rails that are identical in the kit, but in reality they were handled with different versions used for under the left or right wing.  The Shrikes and ALQ-101 are pretty poor too.

 

The pylon is easily modifiable, but we shouldn't have to. Not great research by Airfix, a 2 min google search would have provided plenty of images of the pylons. They could have even looked at the pylons in the old tool kit. Certainly agree on the new parts being pretty poor.

 

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