jrallman Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 My sister bought me a japanese sea plane at nats, so now I want to at least do it in a proper water base, if not a full diorama. I have seen a few articles online about methods and products for modeling water, but figured this would be a really nice thread to have here as well, since there are a good many seaplanes that are built on here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stusbke Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 take a look at these they are right here at ARC first in the tools and tips section http://s96920072.onlinehome.us/tnt1/001-10...aths/tnt067.htm HTH greetz STB ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 i can't find it now, but not too long ago I had seen a model of a wreck at the bottom of the ocean with water overtop. thought that was pretty cool too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stusbke Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 was with a helldiver in the coral? i rember something like it but you could just create the illusion its under water not?, i think that was what the modeler did anyway he hung all of figures as if they were swimming around the wreck and he made some bubbles come from there diving gear just like they would under water real cool and realy convinsing greetz STB ill try to look for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 I remember that one as well, but IIRC, this was a russian plane, maybe a Yak? He had thinned the surfaces and made the ribbing visible and the fabric all gone from the control surfaces, then build up "water" above it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-bone Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 i can't find it now, but not too long ago I had seen a model of a wreck at the bottom of the ocean with water overtop. thought that was pretty cool too. That fantastic diorama of the Zero by Jaroslav Galler can be found here. The use of the clear plastic material for the surface (is it Plastruct?) is wonderful. I remember that one as well, but IIRC, this was a russian plane, maybe a Yak? He had thinned the surfaces and made the ribbing visible and the fabric all gone from the control surfaces, then build up "water" above i This model is not nearly as good and does not have any pictures of the water "cage" that encloses it since my brother took the pictures with HIS camera and did not want to take them that way. This model is here. I used Plastruct to create a water surface but it is not in this article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 Yeah, great job on the Yak, that was the one I was thinking of, but aparently in my mind I have combined it with another model I saw. It was wreck on the bottom of the ocean but the modeler actually used some sort of resin or some such substance and filled in the whole thing, tinted and everything to make it look like it was deep under water. very cool, very realistic, my brain is just too full of cool models i've seen to sort out where i saw it, or aparently, even what plane it was! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Fester Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Jay, You've probably already seen the Dauntless diorama I did but I found the use of clear casting resin real easy and worth a go. The waves are made by pressing crumpled ali foil into the wet resin as it dries, then when it gels just remove it and hey presto great looking waves. Cheers Doc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 Doc, your dauntless diorama is sweet! Hmmm, maybe the diorama im thinking of doesn't really exist, and I will have to build one, oh darn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 I remember that one as well, but IIRC, this was a russian plane, maybe a Yak? He had thinned the surfaces and made the ribbing visible and the fabric all gone from the control surfaces, then build up "water" above it. Underwater Yak can be found here. http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal4...der/gal3333.htm I haven't gotten it archived quite yet. Steve B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stusbke Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 (edited) ok but i still havent seen the one im was talking about ill keep on looking for it and i now for sure it was dauntless that the divers where looking at and it was laying on top a big coral if that helps im off again to look for it i must find i just must. ooh and yes it does exist :lol: greetz STB btw i realy like all the models displayed so far. edit ok i found one here on the board, not what i was looking for but close :lol: more to come when i find it its btw on this topic page Edited July 30, 2005 by stusbke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Animal Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Some guy uh... George Schmidt, in FSM Mar. 1999 did a diorama of the USS Munsee and simulated water with claycrete and paper mache (to simulate waves) and then airbrushed the thing. If you have the issue look at pages 44 thru 49. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stusbke Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 (edited) OK GUYS I FOUND IT this is the one im talking about it was here on the board in this thread. phew i tought i was loosing my mind but i got it :blink: greetz STB :lol: µ frederick jacobs Edited July 30, 2005 by stusbke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clarence Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Doc, That ditched SBD, was that on display at Venture Hobbies in Wheeling IL? I saw something very similar to that there. Clarence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Fester Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 (edited) Doc,That ditched SBD, was that on display at Venture Hobbies in Wheeling IL? I saw something very similar to that there. Clarence I very much doubt that Clarence, Since I finished it earlier this year it has lived in my display cabinet here in the UK and the only people to see it have been here on ARC. I am told it is very similar to a Shep Paine diorama which had a Devestator not a Dauntless. I've never seen Sheps version and I would really like to. A few more pictures of my diorama are found here. Cheers Doc Edited July 30, 2005 by Dr Fester Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roym Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Hi all, here's one that I found on carrier builders, it's meant for ships on the surface but should be good for seaplanes and floatplanes too. Best of all it's CHEAP and VERY SIMPLE!! http://www.carrierbuilders.net/ go to the articles, scroll down to tools'n'tips and see creating realistic water. hope this helps. great new forum by the way. Roy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clarence Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Doc, I didn't know you lived in England! The one here in the Illinois looked a lot like yours, but it's gone now so I can't compare it to yours. Now they have a 1/32 USN F4 crashlanded in a Vietnamese rice paddy, with villagers looking at it. The F4 is all shot up and looks like it's been there a while. It's called "Tell us the story again Grandfather". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Fester Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 That sounds a mighty fine diorama, you will have to get some pics posted of that one! Cheers Doc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrallman Posted July 31, 2005 Author Share Posted July 31, 2005 Ah, that is the one I was thinking of, shampoo, thats it! Hmm, prell maybe? I bet it would be fun to do one with clear resin, the kind that doesn't get hot that is, so you could shade it lighter towards the surface, sort of a plane crashed in a somewhat shallow bay in a pacific atoll or something like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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