kap64 Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Anyone know where I can get decent drawings so I can correct the nose end of this kit? It was hard to tell how far off it was until I saw one built. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 If you have the kit, then the decal placement instruction sheet profile and plan views are the right shape. All you have to do is enlarge them to 1/72 scale. As I recall they are scaled at 1/288. I have enlarged them and they look pretty good. Why they included correct scale plans for decal placement and did not use them when they put the kit together is beyond me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 That crossed my mind too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeskiM Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I'll never understand how they missed the wheel bay extension on the one side....they had it right on the 1/144 scale version they built. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'll never understand how they missed the wheel bay extension on the one side....they had it right on the 1/144 scale version they built. The 1/144 kit came after the 1/72 and they managed to fix most of the stuff ups on the 1/72. At least they learnt from their mistakes in this case. Doesn't help those who bought the 1/72 kit though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Does this help? It was done from the maintenance manual stuff. The windshield is identical to a DC-10/MD-11. In fact, the part number for the windshield frame forging is the same as on the original 1972 DC-10 prototype! Image is 1/72. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Thanks for the profile, very good!!! Now does that same manual have the l & r sponsons, those would be extremely helpful?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I really can't until I'm cleared by Revell to do so. However, you can go to the Braz Models web site and see the actual CAD drawings used to make the kit. He worked from the same documentation that I did. Also, you simply can't beat photos of the real thing. Try www.airliners.net and search on "C-17" for thousands of C-17 pics... J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kitnut617 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Hi, I am currently in possession of a set of drawings of the C-17 but unfortunately not in a position to copy or pass on anything from them without permission from their owner, my friend Steve, who kindly let me borrow them so I can complete my 1/72 Combat Models vacuform kit. I can say that the origin of these drawings are from McDonnell Douglas and out of curiosity I printed off Jennings nose profile to compare with what I have and it does match practically exactly. Now that I have two sources of the nose profile I can confidently say the model when I've finished should be more like a proper C-17 as the set of drawings I have is full of section views of just about everything that would be needed, main u/c sponsons, engines, wing airfoils etc. Cheers, Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Hi,I am currently in possession of a set of drawings of the C-17 but unfortunately not in a position to copy or pass on anything from them without permission from their owner, my friend Steve, who kindly let me borrow them so I can complete my 1/72 Combat Models vacuform kit. I can say that the origin of these drawings are from McDonnell Douglas and out of curiosity I printed off Jennings nose profile to compare with what I have and it does match practically exactly. Now that I have two sources of the nose profile I can confidently say the model when I've finished should be more like a proper C-17 as the set of drawings I have is full of section views of just about everything that would be needed, main u/c sponsons, engines, wing airfoils etc. Cheers, Robert I'm guessing you probably have the MDD model drawings. If that's so, just note that those were done before any hardware existed, so they're not representative of a production airplane in many respects. The basic shapes of the airframe are ok, but details are not. As far as airfoils, has *anyone* ever criticized a model because it had a NACA 12-7B instead of a NACA 14-22E? J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenlilly106 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 As far as airfoils, has *anyone* ever criticized a model because it had a NACA 12-7B instead of a NACA 14-22E? I can think of 3 people that would if given the chance...... Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kitnut617 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) As I don't know which airfoil is drawn anyway (not labelled), I doesn't worry me which one it is, it's just that there's something there which I can then make some ribs so the plastic will have some shape to it, the Combat Models vacuform being of very thin styrene for the size of the model. Same with the engine nacelles, they don't appear to be dead round. As to when the drawings were done I couldn't say either, but the CM kit seems to follow it quite well from what I've checked so far. I'm planning on building the model later this year along with a 1/72 CC-150 of Transport Wings. Edit: Just found the drawings from where I had them stored for safe keeping and had a look at them. The title block on the drawings say - 'The Douglas Aircraft Company' Edited August 20, 2008 by kitnut617 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kap64 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Thanks all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Note that the intakes are not round. The bottom is bulged out slightly. check photos on airliners.net It also shows up in the Braz Models CAD drawings. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GCA333 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) Is this kit any good, overall? The 1/144 C-17 looks awesome, but I would really like a 1/72 one. Edited August 20, 2008 by GCA333 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aim9xray Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Does this help? It was done from the maintenance manual stuff. The windshield is identical to a DC-10/MD-11. In fact, the part number for the windshield frame forging is the same as on the original 1972 DC-10 prototype! Image is 1/72.JIIRC, The YC-15 used the same parts as well!Jennings, would it be possible to post the same section, except a top or bottom view? If not now, perhaps after the Revell release? This is where Anigrand really missed the boat, making the fuselage side taper forward of the cargo box more of an ogive (or something...). That set them up for the rediculous "Seaview" styled windshield that they provided in the 1/72nd kit. Arrrrgh! GCA333, whether it's a good or bad kit depends on how fussy you are. If you have detail and shape OCD, there are some real problem areas. On the other hand, it does look a lot like a C-17, and it's the only game in town in this scale unless you want to go vacuform. It really depends on you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GCA333 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Who does a vac C-17? I'm not a JMN. I don't really mind if its off a little, as long as it is similar at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 http://combatmodels.us/ It's vaccuform, but from what I have seen so far, its a pretty good company. I am about to order the F-106 in 1/32 Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 http://combatmodels.us/It's vaccuform, but from what I have seen so far, its a pretty good company. I am about to order the F-106 in 1/32 Ric Having owned the Combat Models C-17 I can tell you it has the same shape issues around the nose that the Anigrand has. perhaps Anigrand used this a basis for their kit? This is shear speculation on my behalf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.