Tony Stark Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 The Blackbird was better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Horrido Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 But, for authenticity, does the Ford engine catch fire? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 But, for authenticity, does the Ford engine catch fire? unsafe at any speed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fellow Hobbyist Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 But, for authenticity, does the Ford engine catch fire? Strangely that reminds me of Top Gear; where Hammond was getting teased for buy a car type that actually did suffer a string of engine fires. His car caught fire as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 F-35 Pinto? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 F-35 Pinto? Like the F-35, Pinto had a disturbing habit of burning at inconvenient times. However, unlike the F-35, the Pinto was cheap and Ford delivered it on time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) Like the F-35, Pinto had a disturbing habit of burning at inconvenient times. A "trend" of one. However, unlike the F-35, the Pinto was cheap and Ford delivered it on time. Tomcat was way betterer F-35 is so sissy its "fire" didn't even warrant an ejection. Edited July 15, 2014 by TaiidanTomcat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) A "trend" of one. Tomcat was way betterer Which means that nearly 1% of all F-35's have self-combusted, as opposed to much less for the Pinto fleet. Absolutely scandalous. "Unsafe at any Mach" will be the title of the book I plan to write on this subject. I do agree that nothing comes close to the beloved Tomcat (RIP baby). It excelled in every category, as did those awesome Pratt TF-30's. Truly set the standard for dependability. Edited July 15, 2014 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkW Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 One other minor difference...The Pinto was blamed for at least 27 deaths due to the faulty gas tank design. Far superior to JSF in that regard, huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 One other minor difference...The Pinto was blamed for at least 27 deaths due to the faulty gas tank design. Far superior to JSF in that regard, huh? Don't believe what you read in the mainstream media. If you look at the number of cars produced vrs incidents, I would say that the Pinto has far less of a chance of bursting into flames than an F-35. A lovely car, truly a classic from the 70's. I'm thinking that Ford is about due to release the Pinto II. They can paint it up in F-35 colors and it would sell like hotcakes. Maybe give it a flame job to really add to the F-35 package. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Don't believe what you read in the mainstream media. If you look at the number of cars produced vrs incidents, I would say that the Pinto has far less of a chance of bursting into flames than an F-35. This might be why we typically compare airplanes to airplanes and cars to cars. Even comparing warplanes to airliners is difficult. Pak-fa with 20 percent of its fleet catching fire must look really bad. yikes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 This might be why we typically compare airplanes to airplanes and cars to cars. Even comparing warplanes to airliners is difficult. Pak-fa with 20 percent of its fleet catching fire must look really bad. yikes. Why be logical on a forum like this? You have to admit, you won't see stimulating discussion like the above on real forums dedicated to the subject. Anyway, when I write my expose' "Unsafe at Any Mach", it will be an E-book. Howzabout providing some of your cool .GIF's for the project? Put that talent to work for a good cause. If the book sells, the next project would be a collection of creepy, yet still sexy female GIF's. You in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) One other minor difference...The Pinto was blamed for at least 27 deaths due to the faulty gas tank design. Far superior to JSF in that regard, huh? The program's still young. We'll follow the media's tasteful, classy example, and wait with bated breath. If the book sells, the next project would be a collection of creepy, yet still sexy female GIF's. Can we go for sexy, yet still creepy? I really do feel the focus should be on the sexy... For marketing's sake. Edited for spelling. Edited July 15, 2014 by Horrido Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Why be logical on a forum like this? You have to admit, you won't see stimulating discussion like the above on real forums dedicated to the subject. If you want to see some real bitter vitriol Pilots Rumor Network is where its at. Anyway, when I write my expose' "Unsafe at Any Mach", it will be an E-book. Howzabout providing some of your cool .GIF's for the project? Put that talent to work for a good cause. I would if there weren't so many others bashing the F-35 electronically for free. I'll never be David Axe unless they invent A machine that stops brain development at a 6th grade level. or Stupid Pills. I would link to his latest story but I don't want to give him the clicks. Hoping he cracks puberty soon, though. Good Luck David! If the book sells, the next project would be a collection of creepy, yet still sexy female GIF's. You in? I wonder about us. I really do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) The program's still young. We'll follow the media's tasteful, classy example, and wait with baited breath. There are people out there that are genuinely disappointed the F-35 hasn't killed a pilot yet. seriously. Edited July 15, 2014 by TaiidanTomcat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 There are people out there that are genuinely disappointed the F-35 hasn't killed a pilot yet. seriously. Unfortunately; Absolutely true. Anything to further their agenda . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diamondback Six Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 What, you didn't know? There's a DIRECT correlation between the amount of newspapers sold and the amount of blood mixed into the ink. Trust me, I used to BE one of those people... :( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 >>> Article <<< -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkW Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 So, the Facebook page was right... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devilleader501 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Seems the Mainstream is wrong unless it is only the USA that has Mainstream media. http://www.farnborough.com/public/page.cfm/action=library/libID=5/libEntryID=5/listID=1 As I said before we were cleared for flight and the F-35 Would make the UK for the air show but somehow no one seems to notice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkW Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 Given the choice been an air show promoter and the official DoD announcement, and a three hour flight time between borescopes... Maybe the Atlantic is shorter to cross now? Or we have in flight borescope technology? Oh, wait, that comes out in 3F. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Under the rules of the flight resumption, the F-35s are limited to a maximum speed of Mach 0.9 and 18 degrees of angle of attack. They can go from minus 1 G to a 3 G’s, So under the new restrictions, the F-35 has roughly the same performance as a 737. Would have made for a pretty lame airshow routine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) Beat me to it. Here is the source. Edited July 16, 2014 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Under the rules of the flight resumption, the F-35s are limited to a maximum speed of Mach 0.9 and 18 degrees of angle of attack. They can go from minus 1 G to a 3 G’s, So under the new restrictions, the F-35 has roughly the same performance as a 737. Would have made for a pretty lame airshow routine. Its all about the hover in this case,anyway. IIRC the Yuma demo didn't exceed those parameters either. I know I know, a 16 ton hovering stealth fighter jet isn't that exciting but hopefully the crowd would have played along. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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