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I have an old ERTL/AMT kit that's half built.  I was thinking about converting it to a F-16C Block 30 Aircraft (small intake).

What obvious external difference do I need to fix?

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It depends on how accurate you want to be.  The big items are a new cockpit and vertical stab, plus a bunch of panel lines and some new antenna.  A Block 30 will require a different engine, or you can do a Block 25 which retains the A-model's P&W.

 

Grab yourself some good refs and get to work.  It isn't that hard.

 

Jake

 

 

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What scale, 72nd or  48th?

 

If 48th. the old AMT/Ertl kit has features from the YF-16 prototype that would need to be corrected:

  • forward strake/fuselage mating line
  • YF two piece nose gear door > one piece door on A & C
  • YF ventral strake shape need correcting

In addition to the differences Jake mentioned, the blade antenna on the bottom of the intake moved back to between the ventral strakes.

 

You'd be better off finding a Revell or early Hasegawa F-16C for cheap.  Another option is the Academy kit, it had both A and C vertical tails in the kit.

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1 hour ago, habu2 said:

What scale, 72nd or  48th?

 

If 48th. the old AMT/Ertl kit has features from the YF-16 prototype that would need to be corrected:

  • forward strake/fuselage mating line
  • YF two piece nose gear door > one piece door on A & C
  • YF ventral strake shape need correcting

In addition to the differences Jake mentioned, the blade antenna on the bottom of the intake moved back to between the ventral strakes.

 

You'd be better off finding a Revell or early Hasegawa F-16C for cheap.  Another option is the Academy kit, it had both A and C vertical tails in the kit.

48th, I'll go through the stash and see if I still have my old Academy kit.

Now to choose between the 16, or skip it for now and do a Strike Eagle next.

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21 hours ago, Da SWO said:

48th, I'll go through the stash and see if I still have my old Academy kit.

Now to choose between the 16, or skip it for now and do a Strike Eagle next.

You could always treat yourself to a Tamiya Block 25. One of the most enjoyable builds I can remember.

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Going to give my son 1.5 ERTL kits and take the Academy F-16C.

@seawinder Has to be a block 30, as I am making a specific tail number (Wing I was in).

Doesn't seem like a lot of aftermarket stuff, so I'll probably go OOB with SuperScale decals from my stash.

I'll be doing a 107FS, NOBLE EAGLE bird.

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1 hour ago, Da SWO said:

Going to give my son 1.5 ERTL kits and take the Academy F-16C.

@seawinder Has to be a block 30, as I am making a specific tail number (Wing I was in).

Doesn't seem like a lot of aftermarket stuff, so I'll probably go OOB with SuperScale decals from my stash.

I'll be doing a 107FS, NOBLE EAGLE bird.

Sorry -- missed that. If you can find it, the Tamiya F-16C Aggressor kit has everything you need for a block 30 including both small and large mouth intakes.

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7 hours ago, Da SWO said:

Going to give my son 1.5 ERTL kits and take the Academy F-16C.

@seawinder Has to be a block 30, as I am making a specific tail number (Wing I was in).

Doesn't seem like a lot of aftermarket stuff, so I'll probably go OOB with SuperScale decals from my stash.

I'll be doing a 107FS, NOBLE EAGLE bird.


The Academy kit won’t have the requisite GE exhaust for a block 30. 
 

Mark

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6 hours ago, gb_madcat_sl said:


The Academy kit won’t have the requisite GE exhaust for a block 30. 
 

 

True, I missed that.  GE exhausts are only in certain 1/48 kits by Hasegawa, Kinetic, Revell and Tamiya.  (or aftermarket)

 

Italeri kits have a GE exhaust option but the number of 'feathers' is wrong.

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2 hours ago, habu2 said:

 

True, I missed that.  GE exhausts are only in certain 1/48 kits by Hasegawa, Kinetic, Revell and Tamiya.  (or aftermarket)

 

Italeri kits have a GE exhaust option but the number of 'feathers' is wrong.

Can I get an aftermarket kit?  I looked at Sprue Brothers and didn't see an Academy specific set, so would another (HAS/TAM) set work?

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The Academy and Hasegawa kits are Very Similar. In fact I would say with a high degree of confidence the Academy kit is based on the Hasegawa with some simplifications made for the molds, specifically the non-convex canopy and the lack of slope/twist on the flat sides of the aft fuselage.

 

I put a resin inlet designed for Hasegawa on the Academy kit and it fit perfectly.  I would bet an aftermarket GE nozzle designed for the Hasegawa kit would be a perfect fit on the Academy kit.  Same for the cockpit.

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On 12/7/2020 at 2:19 PM, Da SWO said:

I wimped out and bought a Tamiya F-16C.

Any aftermarket requirements for this one? (exhaust nozzle is on my to buy list)

I'm going to try and build this as an 191 FIG F-16 ADF.  IFF is available as an aftermarket item, and the searchlight should be relatively easy

The bulges in the tail base might be a challenge.

Guess I'm going to be brave building 2 models at once, we'll see how that goes.  Shelf of doom loses another victim.

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12 hours ago, Niels said:

You will need a A-tail with the bulges for making a 191FIG jet. 

I have the correct tail,  will have to scratch build the bulges on the base.

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