Tomcat Trebor Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) Clear Prop are looking at do a new 1/72 MiG-19 'Farmer'. Scans have been done of an actual aircraft so no need to get the KP one according to https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235112371-172-mikoyan-gurevich-mig-19-farmer-by-by-clearprop-models-3d-render-in-project/ . I know that this will please you @ya-gabor. Regards Robert Edited July 8, 2022 by Tomcat Trebor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) Hi Robert, Yeah, I have seen the news. Thanks for posting it here also. It will be an interesting kit. Certainly look forward to it! Thing is some manufacturers announce so many kits for one reason or another, but in real life we see only few ending up in shops and on workbenches. Let us only hope that this will turn up all right. The only question is, what is this brickmodelarr you are giving link too?? Never heard of it before! : ) : ) Best regards Gabor Edited July 8, 2022 by ya-gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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ya-gabor Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 7/8/2022 at 6:26 PM, Tomcat Trebor said: Clear Prop are looking at do a new 1/72 MiG-19 'Farmer'. Scans have been done of an actual aircraft so no need to get the KP one according to https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235112371-172-mikoyan-gurevich-mig-19-farmer-by-by-clearprop-models-3d-render-in-project/ . I know that this will please you @ya-gabor. Regards Robert Hi Robert, Little more than 2 years on the team at Clear Prop! has been working hard in the background. Clear Prop! is not wasting any time. Following in the steps of the 72nd F-86A Sabre kit here is the MiG-19PM (the last version with a radar and 4 Air to Air missiles. It should be released in spring, so hopefully it will be available at the Moson show this April. I know they did a 3D scan of a real aircraft and the CAD was based on this data so shape should be as good as you can get it! CAD images of the kit were just released, but straight after at the German kit show a test build was already on display. WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Look forward to this!!!!!!!! Good luck with this kit to Clear Prop! Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Where's mudamned E-1 Tracer???!!!😠 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thadeus Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Oh. That is nice. And to think I almost got myself that Kovozavody Mig-19P today... I'm keeping my fingers crossed so it won't be more expensive than the F-86A. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Here are some CAD views of the Clear Prop! new kit. 31 minutes ago, Thadeus said: Oh. That is nice. And to think I almost got myself that Kovozavody Mig-19P today... I'm keeping my fingers crossed so it won't be more expensive than the F-86A. Oh yes, the KP "new" tool MiG-19PM. Last year at Moson the kit was there, we had a look inside the box and with the speed of sound closed it back again not to let out the bad vibe of the kit. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat Trebor Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 @ya-gabor , l saw the pictures as well and it does look good. The sprue layout would be interesting to see if other versions can/could be made. It would be nice if they visited the MiG-17 to complete the early MiGs. Regards Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tomcat Trebor said: @ya-gabor , l saw the pictures as well and it does look good. The sprue layout would be interesting to see if other versions can/could be made. It would be nice if they visited the MiG-17 to complete the early MiGs. Regards Robert Hi Robert, If you look back at recent kit releases (some ready but still at the maker) it shows a very, Very, VERY wide range of subjects. A year ago it was the F-86A announced in 48th, then in September 2024 the Boeing Biplane in 48, the WW2 LaGG fighter, to be followed by the 72nd Sabre, now an ex Soviet MiG-19PM in 72nd. Kit types are so far apart from each other, different ages, countries of origin, scales . . . Don’t forget there is also a bloody war going on influencing a lot of things in production, cuts in electricity, air raids. . . It is far from easy for them and all along they have to make a living, give wages to employees, overheads, raw materials. . . I would not hold my breath for a MiG-17 from Clear Prop. Not that it would not be welcome. Would love to have a good MiG-17 at last after that disastrous pile of steaming manure from Airthick. Of course never say never! There is still the question of that Su-25 from years ago, but with the war and the Frogfoot playing an important part in it I would say it is a bit shakeeee. Also the started line of MiG-23’s. We are still waiting for the earlier MiG-23MF for example. So . . . There is no point in going into page after page of a guessing game like so many other forums. Lets be happy that a decent, state of art MiG-19PM is close to release! : ) : ) : ) Clear Prop! will announce whatever they will release next in time for us to get excited! As to other versions of the MiG-19, in few days time (on this Friday) a test build of this MiG-19PM will be shown and hopefully some sprue photos will also be shared to answer your question on any other possible future version. Best regards Gabor Edited January 28 by ya-gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Hothersall Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Wonder if this will make Trumpeter get off their backside with their MiG-19. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon Krol Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 21 hours ago, Paul Boyer said: Where's mudamned E-1 Tracer???!!!😠 Yes!!! Where is the E-1B Tracer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hemspilot Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 hours ago, Jon Krol said: Yes!!! Where is the E-1B Tracer? Or the Aerospatiale SA-321? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/28/2025 at 8:55 PM, Tomcat Trebor said: @ya-gabor , l saw the pictures as well and it does look good. The sprue layout would be interesting to see if other versions can/could be made. It would be nice if they visited the MiG-17 to complete the early MiGs. Regards Robert Hi Robert, As promissed they shared some images of a test build. Sorry there are no photos of sprues. : ( : ( So no answers to your question. It is a PP build, Pure Plastic, the etched brass details are missing for the moment. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 The Clear Prop! story is getting better and better. Together with the release of the MiG-19PM Air to Air Missile version the earlier gun equiped MiG-19P is also going to be released. (Hope for Moson show). The difference is a new wing with the guns and the unguided missile pod. Of course the scale here is also 72nd. There should be some images of the sprues soon, but the question of multiple MiG-19 versions is already answered with these two. Would an early MiG-19S (and all those different license versions also be available is a longer story. Time will tell. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Speaking of other versions from Clear Prop! There could be MiG-19S next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sure they will want to see first how the MiG-19P and PM will sell this year. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thuynh Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Any chance of a 1:48 scale ? Thanks Thanh Huynh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) The box-art for the Clear Prop! 72nd scale MiG-19PM and also for the MiG-19P versions. (obviously the first with the RS-2U missiles is the MiG-19PM version and the Csehoslovak "Gun-fighter" is the MiG-19P version.) Best regards Gabor Edited February 7 by ya-gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) And here are the sprues for the Clear Prop! 72nd scale MiG-19PM aircraft. Judging by the sprues, anything is possible in the future. There are a lot of parts separate in individual sprues so it is possible to make a mix of sprues with all sorts of additional / alternative parts making building various future versions possible. Interesting breakdown of fuselage with separate bottom panel for the airbrakes and after section top panel. For the moment only the pointed tail section version is given. The Hungarian MiG-19PM had a different shorter "tail cone". So some work will be required. Also if one is building the MiG-19PM with AAM the modeller will have to sand down gun blast panels on fuseleage side near the cockpit. The blast panels are for the MiG-19P "Gun-fighter" version. Best regards Gabor Edited February 7 by ya-gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Any sprue shots of the 1/72 scale E-1B Tracer yet?😈 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Paul Boyer said: Any sprue shots of the 1/72 scale E-1B Tracer yet?😈 : ) : ) : ) : ) Hi Paul, Sorry, this forum is about the MiG-19 from Clear Prop! : ) : ) Thing is I have no idea about Tracer. As a modeller and outside person in this business I can only communicate and show things that the maker shares. I am sure when there is news the company will show what ever is available. But lets get back to the MiG-19PM. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Well, this THREAD is about the MiG-19, but the FORUM is about communication. And since you are in communication with the Clear Prop, would you please say a good word for those of us who would like to see a new E-1B that was announced several years ago. THANKS! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Hi Paul, It is communication and in this case about the MiG-19 kits. I have no idea about other kits. Sorry! At the German trade show last week there was that Boeing biplane in the background also. There is no word from them on developments with it since announcing it last September, apart from showing a test build last week. I would think different companies have different communication strategy. Some say years in advance what they are planning. Others announce any new project ONLY when it is already 100% ready and is about to be sent to the shops. Clear Prop! did many years ago show images of a planned Su-25, further versions of the MiG-23 as well as many other kits. . . Will they do them? I am sure if the economic, political situation allows, if maths of producing and selling such kits works out, they have the capacity, raw materials . . . then I am sure they will in time. Have they changed communication to announcing things when they are already made and ready? Possible. Am I in direct communication with Clear Prop! ??? Of a sorts yes, like speaking to them directly at events, modelling shows like Moson or the Plastikova Zima late last year. The best opportunity for direct contact!!! Things about the MiG-19 and other kits shown on forums and threads are taken from official releases by the company. And do I have a say in what they do? Not really. Like most modellers I would have ideas for future kits, but I am not a production company with all the burdens that this brings with it! Try tell Tamiya, Heller, Revel or Eduard what it is that I want. Chances???? For the moment what is known is that according to PLANS the two MiG-19 versions will be available around the Moson show in April. What will happen in reallity I can tell only the day after that! Sorry that I cannot give you any better answer at the moment. If there is no news till then, I will most likely ask about other projects at Moson. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat Trebor Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 So colour schemes, every ones favourite topic. Were the MiG-19s natural metal or painted aluminium ? Regards Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, Tomcat Trebor said: So colour schemes, every ones favourite topic. Were the MiG-19s natural metal or painted aluminium ? Regards Robert Hi Robert, The simple answer: Both. : ) : ) : ) More detailed: Factory new they were true natural metal with a clear varnish. After years of service and general overhaul they returned from Bulgaria with a painted "Aluminium" fuselage. But I can speak only for Hungarian AF MiG-19PM's. Would expect that it was the same with other users since they all followed or were told to follow the Soviet way. So basically you need to know which particular period aircraft you are building or have some nice walk around or at least few photos from service at the same time. It is simple to see if it is True Natural Metal or painted Aluminium. The first is much brighter, lots of panels, lots of rivets visible. On the painted Aluminium it is a kind of dull Grey over all colour! No real visible differences between panels. But please note that not only the surface finish was different but in most cases the position, style, size, colour of markings, a/c individual codes, national markings and even stencils were different after overhaul! MUSEUM AIRCRAFT CAN PROVIDE ONLY STRUCTURAL DETAILS FOR MODELLERS. THE PAINT ON MUSEUM AIRCRAFT IS A LOAD OF STEAMING CRAP!!! Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat Trebor Posted February 8 Author Share Posted February 8 Thanks for your insight Gabor. Regards Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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