F-16D Kinetic vs Hasegawa Which one to buy?
Posted 19 August 2010 - 09:05 PM
My key criteria are the level of detail, panel lines/rivets, part fit, need for filling/sanding, and overall quality of the kit. Weapons, decals etc. are not critical for me.
Thank you very much.
Posted 19 August 2010 - 11:01 PM
I´d go for the Kintetic.
Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:44 AM
However, in other areas such as the landing gear bays and exhaust nozzle, the Kinetic kit is better as it has greater detail than the plain, uninspiring, Hasegawa ones.
Hope this helps you make a more informed choice.
Posted 20 August 2010 - 02:36 AM
But can you buy a Hasegawa F-16D??? I think your only source would be on the forums,or Vendor tables at local contest, I've been seeing them for around $25.
I'd go Hasegawa and add the Black Box pit, and Aires gear wells, it will build into a fine F-16D.
I will not recommend the Kinetic kit.
My unfinished F-16D
Posted 20 August 2010 - 06:30 AM
This post has been edited by Angels49: 20 August 2010 - 06:34 AM
Posted 20 August 2010 - 06:15 PM
The nose on the 48th has been 'tweaked' so it doesn't bulge down AS MUCH as the initial two releases did (AM and DJ) but still has those who are most annoyed by it pining for the fijords...errr....waiting for a as yet hypothetical Tamiya F-16D (or A/B for that matter). The fix appears to have been lessening the bulge on the bottom odf the nose but the top still is said to angle down too much.
Matt - resident Kinetic Viper flack
Posted 20 August 2010 - 07:25 PM
Posted 24 August 2010 - 07:51 AM
If you're an absolute stickler for perfection, OOB, this is not the kit, as far as the nose issue, if it looks like a duck.....yadda yadda yadda....., as far as that goes there are enough threads around to get you all the info needed on that. I don't let that bother me, I'm not entering any contest anytime soon anyway so for me it's a non issue. Somewhere in this forum in the In-Prog group is a tutorial how-to on cutting and correcting that hang up. A few of the more critical folks say that it's not fixable, that the slope starts too far back...., but later boxings have that prob corrected. IIRC that is only in the Kinetic AM and DG/DJ Vipers. Most of the folks who are gonna be seeing my finished builds won't know the difference anyway.
Posted 01 September 2010 - 04:55 AM
Based on your comments, I have done some research and the nose issue with the Kinetic kit is quite significant for me. Although there are interesting fixes like the 'Pablo Cut,' I can't see my self doing this at all. Has Kinetic truly fixed this problem, and if so, how can I know which box has the new nose? If I can get the correct nose in the box, I'd go with the Kinetic kit.
However, if that does not work, I think I will go with the hasegawa kit. This is what I am interested in:
It seems so difficult to find this kit though. (If you have one and are willing to sell, please pm me)
Alternatively, I would really appreciate if I can create a F-16D Block 50 using the Polish Block 52 model:
I have not found a clear answer to this question (can't tell if it has the block 50 mouth and engine etc. and if the base model is suitable for my purposes) Any help will be very appreciated.
This post has been edited by Janissary: 01 September 2010 - 04:59 AM
Posted 01 September 2010 - 05:24 AM
Looking at the parts diagram, you can build a regular Block 50 D from the Hasegawa Polish AF kit. parts for the MCID intake are included but I can't tell if the GE exhaust is there. Also, you'll need to replace the cockpit as the kit one depicts a Block 15 front IP and block 10 rear IP.
Posted 02 September 2010 - 03:25 AM
As for the Kinetic kit repair,well, they fattened it up a bit to remove the droop, and changed the cross section at the nose, do a search and you'll find plenty, also there are some comparison pictures somewhere in one of those discussions here on ARC.
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