Janissary Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I am looking for a 1/48 Hasegawa A-4E/F boxing. I want to build an E/F with the hump back. It looks like I can get the M boxing for a pretty good price. Can I make E/F from the M boxing? My initial research tells me this is not possible without major surgery. The forward fuselage seems different between E/F vs M boxings. Can you confirm? If not, which Hase boxings are ok? For instance, will this have all the necessary parts (hump back)? http://www.1001modelkits.com/1-48-aircraft-model-kits/118033-douglas-a-4e-f-skyhawk-top-gun-4967834073586.html?gclid=COqB6uSChMkCFZMvgQodsvoEeA I am not sure how many different sprue types and boxings are out there between E, F and M. Any help would be much appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticWeapons Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The A-4M kit has M specific parts such as the larger canopy and cannot be made into an A-4E/F. You can get the M kit for a good price then trade for an A-4E/F kit. :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
planeboy Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Cant make an E/F from an M. You might want to try to find the pro-modeler A-4 Blue Angels boxing (actually Hasegawa molds), it has the ability to make either an E or F and can sometimes be picked up for a deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hegedus Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Any of the Hasegawa A-4E/F kits, other than perhaps the Lady Jessie boxing, one of the Adversary boxings, and the Blue Angels boxing, will get you to a normal, standard A-4E or A-4F. The ProModeler boxing will as well. The Adversary, Blue Angel (Hasegawa's own, with a photo on the box art) and Lady Jessie boxings, I believe, only include the larger "M" intakes used on the Super Fox upgrades. I know there have been at least 2 releases of Adversary boxings; the one that has the VFA-27 airplane going from right to left on landing approach on the box art photo is the one with the larger intakes IIRC. The one with the Top Gun jet taxiing (side number 56 I believe) has the normal A-4E/F intakes as the kit markings are for airplanes that never got the larger ones. This is from memory, sorry if I'm mistaken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ziggyfoos Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Joe's memory has it right, I can confirm two boxings at least: the Hasegawa "A-4F Skyhawk Adversary" (kit 9660) only has the larger intakes, while the "A-4E/F Skyhawk T0p Gun" (kit 7358) has the normal intakes. The latest A-4E USS Midway boxing can be built with humpback as E or F with the standard intakes as well. (I have the A-4F 9660 kit for sale at $30 if you're interested) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Thank you everybody, all the info was very useful. I am not ready to pull the trigger on the purchase yet (building for someone, so need to understand what markings they want) but I may start looking for a kit for purchase in the next week or so. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Any of the Hasegawa A-4E/F kits, other than perhaps the Lady Jessie boxing, one of the Adversary boxings, and the Blue Angels boxing, will get you to a normal, standard A-4E or A-4F. The ProModeler boxing will as well. The Adversary, Blue Angel (Hasegawa's own, with a photo on the box art) and Lady Jessie boxings, I believe, only include the larger "M" intakes used on the Super Fox upgrades. I know there have been at least 2 releases of Adversary boxings; the one that has the VFA-27 airplane going from right to left on landing approach on the box art photo is the one with the larger intakes IIRC. The one with the Top Gun jet taxiing (side number 56 I believe) has the normal A-4E/F intakes as the kit markings are for airplanes that never got the larger ones. This is from memory, sorry if I'm mistaken. So the Pro Modeler boxed Hasegawa Blue Angel kit has the bigger(Super Fox) intakes? I did not know that.Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hegedus Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) So the Pro Modeler boxed Hasegawa Blue Angel kit has the bigger(Super Fox) intakes? I did not know that.Thanks. No, the ProModeler box is the standard A-4E/F kit with the standard intakes. The Blue Angel box that Hasegawa did itself has the SF intakes. It also includes a white metal boarding ladder housing for the left wingroot gun position. The ProModeler release does not include a boarding ladder housing as used by the Blue Angels, just the guns or the wingroot fairings without gun ports. Interestingly, the Hasegawa TA-4J kits all include the boarding ladder housing in plastic IIRC, but none of the other Skyhawk kits do. Edited November 10, 2015 by Joe Hegedus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Steel Beach has a Super Fox/BA set if you want to upgrade a Hasegawa E/F. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Scroll down a bit on this page, it may be helpful. http://www.modelingmadness.com/splfeat/kr/has48e.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Thank you everybody, very useful info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 While we are on the subject, if I may, are there any in-flight photos of an A-4E/F with the airbrakes fully or partially deployed? I am looking for a shot where the slats are retracted but the airbrakes are partially (and perhaps minimally) out. I am looking for a pose that is just regular in-flight (maneuvering ok) but not a landing or take-off instance (i.e., gears fully retracted). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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