Eduard rights or not with new wheels?

[Sergei Galicky, Russia]

Hi!

I saw a new set of Eduard and I am now confused. These wheels are really used only to F-4S?

http://www.eduard.cz/products/card.php?id_...amp;page_start=

But others only on J / N. Is N not had the same thin-wheel drive as F-4B? Wheels are beautiful, but the rubber has a strange shape I think...

http://www.eduard.cz/products/card.php?id_...mp;page_start=5

[One-Oh-Four]

Hi Sergei,

As far as I know, the F-4N had the same thin wheels/tires as the F-4B. I've also always been under the impression taht the wheels used by the F-4S were the same as those used on the F-4J. The last 10-13 RF-4B's were fitted with wide wheels and the accompanying thicker wing.

The MLG-tires do seem a bit angular to my eye, but I can't honestly say if that's accurate or not! I hope one of the Phantomologics around here will step in soon!

Regards,

Erik.

Edited June 29, 2010 by One-Oh-Four

[JEN722]

As far as I know, the F-4N had the same thin wheels/tires as the F-4B. I've also always been under the impression taht the wheels used by the F-4S were the same as those used on the F-4J. The last 10-13 RF-4B's were fitted with wide wheels and the accompanying thicker wing.

The F-4B and N wheels were identical, and the J and S wheels were identical. Eduard must have made a mistake when naming the products.

As for the RF-4Bs only the last TEN airframes had the wider main wheels and bulged wings.

HTH,

Jens

[Sergei Galicky, Russia]

Thanks, I think as you....

But Eduard released these things, they give consumers an incorrect product. Wheels, which they called the F-4/N have a wide pneumatics as I can see, the same as for the wheels, which they called the F-4S...

[Darren Roberts]

Eduard goofed up in their packaging. The B/N wheels are thin, and the J/S wheels are thick.

[dsmith]

Hi guys,

While not a phantom expert, I have done a lot of research on F-4 wheels (you guys know that wheels are my thing) in order to make my own. I looked at a lot of pictures and had measurements, and since somebody asked, I thought I would try to help out here as decoding the F-4 variants can be very challenging.

There are three types of main wheel used by the F-4, and all variants used the same type of nose wheel.

1. F-4B/N, QF-4N and early RF-4B – these are the original “thin†wheels used by these variants only as they have the thin wing without a bulge. The tires measure 30x7.7 inches.

2. F-4J/S FG1/FGR2 and the last 10 RF-4B aircraft – these have wider 30x11.5 inch tires.

3. F-4C/D/E/F/G/EJ/Kai and RF-4C/E (all USAF) – basically everything not Navy/Marines used this type of wheel. The dimensions seem to be similar to the F-4J/S type wheel, just with a different hub and tread pattern.

Now, there are others who know more than I do, and if I have misrepresented facts or left anything out, I hope they will chime in here. That being said, I don’t have any of the Eduard wheels, but by looking at the pictures, these are my observations – your mileage may vary.

It looks to me that all three of the tires are the same, just with a difference in the hub type. All the tires have the same diameter, which should be the case (30â€). However, it looks like all of the hubs are about the same diameter, which is not correct. The –B/N hub should have a larger diameter than the other two, which are substantially smaller.

The Eduard -B/N wheels are just not right, as they are too wide.

Lastly, of all the pictures I have seen, I have never seen a phantom wheel with five treads – not that it couldn’t happen, this is just my observation. The –B/N wheels have three treads in the center, the –J/S wheels have four treads, with the inner two closer together, and the USAF style wheels have three treads equally spaced.

I do not own any wheel pictures, so I can’t post any. So, here is a diagram of my wheels illustrating the differences among the three types.

I hope this helps explain it a little better. F-4’s are hard to figure out…..

Cheers,

-Doug <_<

[Pete W]

Nice sales pitch Doug

Now I'm going to have to buy a lot more of your wheels

Do have to agree that the Eduard ones do look wrong, nice but wrong.

Pete

[Huey Gunner]

Nice sales pitch Doug

Now I'm going to have to buy a lot more of your wheels :)

Do have to agree that the Eduard ones do look wrong, nice but wrong.

Pete

No kidding. I want to buy some wheels and I don't even have the kit for them! :)

[TXCajun]

The F-4 wheel paradigm has been set!

Thanks for bringing that to our attention Sergei!

Now I know where to go for my Rhino wheels!

[flyfort17]

So Doug, When will those F-4B/N wheels be ready to purchase?

[Darren Roberts]

Doug's resin is every bit as good quality wise as the big boys...and accurate!