dews Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hi , I was just wondering if the CF-18 can carry a 2000lbs bomb on its outer wing pylon if it's carrying a fuel tank on the inner. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 A Mk84 can be carried on any wing station. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chuck540z3 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hi , I was just wondering if the CF-18 can carry a 2000lbs bomb on its outer wing pylon if it's carrying a fuel tank on the inner. Thanks It would appear so if you look at this pic of GBU-10's that are also 2,000 lbs. http://www.airforceimagery.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=10188&site=casimages&catalog=casimages Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) I don't think that's a GBU-10, it looks a bit puney,looks to be a 500lb GBU-12. Curt Edited October 18, 2011 by Netz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 HERE are some comparison pic's of the GBU-10 and GBU-12, note the larger fins on the seeker head. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DONG Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Those are GBU-12's I don't believe we use GBU-31 JDAMS. Don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Looks like we got some: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=27082&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) A Mk84 can be carried on any wing station. Update. Mk84 with the conical fins can be carried on any station, but any other version can only be carried on the inboard pylon. (It's the outboard station) I added this because you did not state what type of 2000lb bomb you intend to use. Curt Edited October 19, 2011 by Netz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 A GBU-10 being loaded on Stn 8 of a CF-18: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=24883&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) Ok I missed the Paveway II comment. Actually I kinda screwed up the whole thing, I went back and added the correction, and here's the paragraph with the explanation. Curt Guided Weapons Laser guided bombs were very rarely carried by F/A-18s prior to Desert Storm. Both the GBU-12 and GBU-16 could be employed on any wing station, but the larger GBU-10 was restricted to the outboard stations only. Only Paveway II versions of these weapons were authorized. Edited October 19, 2011 by Netz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dews Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Thanks for the replies guys, Finn those pictures were more than enough convincing for me. I'm building a model for a friend and he wants JDAMS on his CF-18 and I can't convince him otherwise. Personally I think LGBs look way better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALF18 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Outboard stations on our Hornets (like any F/A-18 A,B,C,D) are rated to carry stores that weigh about 2,000 lb, including the large JDAMs you saw in the pics. The inboard wing stations can also carry 2,000 lb class stores (for example, a full fuel tank weighs about 2,200 lb). By using the photo refs from the operation in Italy, you are assured of following whatever the authorized loads currently are. Of note, many stores combinations that the USN routinely used for years were not authorized on CF-18s, even though there was nothing physically different between the aircraft. The reasons that we were given (I flew them for 10 years) included the fact that our proving authority (AETE) had not conducted testing on carriage, release, and jettison characteristics. The running gag with AETE was that they were still trying to find time in their schedule to finish off the spin trials on the WW II vintage Harvards... Personally, I think the JDAMs are pretty cool. The weapons are simple yet effective, and not dependent on lasing. ALF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EX_Birdgunner Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Nice discussion on CF-18 loadout and quite a coincidence as I am planning to build 769 as it was for Libya in 1/48. Looks like I have a choice between this: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=24276&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos Or this for loadout: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=24509&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos Refs are not a real problem since I walk by this jet almost daily. I am only waiting for permission to take a photo of the bomb stencils that are currently on it. This build will be done along with a 1/72 version of 769 as it was painted in Tiger stripes like this: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Canada---Air/McDonnell-Douglas-CF-188A/0759004/L/&sid=36a15fb775415a581501d7c8ba4f5b33 All thats left is to gather the necessary decals. -Denis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALF18 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Nice discussion on CF-18 loadout and quite a coincidence as I am planning to build 769 as it was for Libya in 1/48. Looks like I have a choice between this: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=24276&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos Or this for loadout: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=24509&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos Refs are not a real problem since I walk by this jet almost daily. I am only waiting for permission to take a photo of the bomb stencils that are currently on it. This build will be done along with a 1/72 version of 769 as it was painted in Tiger stripes like this: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Canada---Air/McDonnell-Douglas-CF-188A/0759004/L/&sid=36a15fb775415a581501d7c8ba4f5b33 All thats left is to gather the necessary decals. -Denis Denis Tough choices! I will be doing two CF-18Ms; the 1/48 will be very likely with the two LGBs and single AMRAAM (second pic), and the 1/32 will be with a double outboard AMRAAM load and something GPS or laser guided on the left outboard (might even do an ugly duckling asymmetrical tank load). The tiger bird will be a challenge - lots of work on the decals, and matching the paint colours as well if you mask and paint some of it. Can't wait to see your progress! ALF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Emvar Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Nice discussion on CF-18 loadout and quite a coincidence as I am planning to build 769 as it was for Libya in 1/48. Looks like I have a choice between this: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=24276&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos Or this for loadout: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=24509&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos Refs are not a real problem since I walk by this jet almost daily. I am only waiting for permission to take a photo of the bomb stencils that are currently on it. This build will be done along with a 1/72 version of 769 as it was painted in Tiger stripes like this: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Canada---Air/McDonnell-Douglas-CF-188A/0759004/L/&sid=36a15fb775415a581501d7c8ba4f5b33 All thats left is to gather the necessary decals. -Denis Denis, The Tiger bird is not hard to do from scratch as I did it in 1/72nd scale using Arrow Graphics Symmetrical era markings and I Masked and painted the Tiger stripes (above picture of my build).... your other option would be to use the CanMilAir sheet for the tiger. (I also built this in 1/144 scale for CanMilAir) I am also thinking of building 769 in the present operation in Lybia just waiting for some good pics on the bird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Adding onto Elmos builds, Leading Edge 1/48......Blurry photo and can't find my Canmilair 1/72 one right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 How about this load, AIM-9s on Stn 1 & 9, GBU-12s on Stns 2 & 3, tanks on 5 & 7, AIM-120 on Stn 6 with dual AIM-120s on Stn 8: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=24372&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca/netpub/server.np?original=24373&site=combatcamera&catalog=photos Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 ..and how many female figures can you count on "769"? Oh, before PC was rammed down our throats... Re current photo of "762"; is that logo on tail for Libyan operation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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