SERNAK Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Hello everyone, I'm between buying in 1/72, either the Monogram, or the Hasegawa F-111, and since the price does play a role, I was wondering when the F-111s were parked did they had their wings' flaps and slats fully deployed or not? Many thanks, Sernak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor01 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 In most instances yes, they were static with slats, flaps, down with wings spread and tail stabs at an angle. You would not be wrong to display one with wings swept back though, occasionally they were on the ramp or HAS that way too, but mostly wings forward. If you see a Hasegawa F-111 BUY IT! They are the best representation of the Vark. Monogram made a decent EF-111A, buy it too if you choose, but The Hasegawa F-111 series are the best! John ex F-111 avionics tech Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SERNAK Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 Looks like I'm gonna have to buy the Hasegawa kit because I just remembered that a few years ago I had read somewhere that the Monogram kit had an issue with the intakes cones - they are in the wrong position.... Anyhow, thanks for your reply John. The Hasegawa kit is indeed and excellent kit, however, overpriced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Does Monogram offer a version other than the EF-111 in 72nd? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Monogram/Revell also has the F-111A kit in 1/48 that was originally an Aurora mold, with all the joys that entails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor01 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, habu2 said: Does Monogram offer a version other than the EF-111 in 72nd? I don’ t think Monogram did another version, only the EF-111A in 1/72. The old Airfix & Revell kits were basic and show their age now. ESCI did a 1/72 F-111 that was decent in the late 1980’s, scribed panel lines, but not up to the Hasegawa standard for detail. The HAS F-111 series holds up well for being a 30 yr old mold, it really is a well engineered kit and not as complicated as it looks, I built a Pease FB In 1990 and have collected about 10 more over the years of all versions but have been stuck in 1/48 scale for the past 20 years. They do get released from time to time but sell out pretty fast. If only we could get a decent 1/48 mold. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SERNAK Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 21 hours ago, habu2 said: Does Monogram offer a version other than the EF-111 in 72nd? No, only the specific version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SERNAK Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 17 hours ago, Raptor01 said: ESCI did a 1/72 F-111 that was decent in the late 1980’s, scribed panel lines, but not up to the Hasegawa standard for detail. John Hi John, You're right, ESCI did a decent F-111 however, it has some issues. I think I've mentioned this for the Monogram kit but, actually it concerns the ESCI kit. From what I have read it has the intakes' cones in the wrong position (extended), plus, the cockpit and therefore the front airframe is a bit wider than what it should be. The Hasegawa 1/72 Raven is indeed an excellent kit but, check those prices on Ebay. Way off my "financial" abilities!!! I guess I'm gonna have to postpone this purchase also. Anyhow, thanks for your help guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DET1460 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Here Here to the Hasy kit. None are better. Had a bunch, still do. If the Hasy kit is available... GO for it! You won't be disappointed! DET1460 (Raptor is right...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 It very much depends on where it was parked if you are talking about a UK based plane. They usually had the wings flaps & slats down, the glove veins up, spoilers closed, tail plane drooped. If parked with the engines off then one nozzle would be open while the other would be closed... As good as the Hasegawa kit is it isnt correct in all ways. You would for instance need to show it with the engines running on the ground, in which case the blow in doors on the intakes would be held open as the engines fight for air on the ground... Ive got pictures of the E and F in all manner of configurations, wings in mid sweep with the tail up or down and at some shows even wings fully back with the tail flat... The one thing all the kits have in common is the lack of an accurate way to represent one engine nozzle closed. Model it how you like, Im sure I could come up with a photo to show its proto-typical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SERNAK Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 @ElectroSoldier - you have just made my scale modelling "life" less easier!😁 Very good and useful points. Many thanks for your response to my enquiry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Not really. The Hasegawa kit is the best kit of her, you just have to show it in a spercific scene for the configuration to be proto-typical thats all. The TPII blow in doors is a problem on all the kits without exception... Ive seen many a "pro built" model perfect in every way except the blow in doors should be open for that particular pose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Does this help? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SERNAK Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 hours ago, ikar said: Does this help? Look at those lines! Simply beautiful!!! Yes, your photos are helpful Ikar and thanks for sharing. By the way, what about the intakes' cones? Were they positioned differently when the aircrafts were parked? Any close-up photos of this detail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K5054NZ Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 The last active RAAF F-111 I saw parked, in March 2008, appeared thus: DSC06043 by Zac Yates, on Flickr DSC06037 by Zac Yates, on Flickr DSC06039 by Zac Yates, on Flickr DSC06033 by Zac Yates, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 That part I didn't notice. Normally I only got close to the aircraft when I had to and then I would be to occupied to notice things like that. These shots I took during my off duty time with the permission of the base information office where you had t get a form filled out to access the flight line. At the time I knew almost nothing of how these machines worked because it wasn't my job and people didn't want me around anyway, on or off duty unless there was trouble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SERNAK Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) Great reference photos!!! Thanks for posting. Really useful stuff! Edited September 12, 2018 by SERNAK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 If you are doing a 1:48 scale F-111 with Triple Plow II inlets (D,E, F, G or FB), you'll want to get a set of intakes from D-Mold: http://www.dmold-modelworks.com/contents/en-us/d2.html For a rundown on F-111 inlets, see here: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/f111indetailjr_1.htm There are nine parts to this series that you can reference by replacing the 1 at the end of the above url with 2-9. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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