Janissary Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Hello, I am looking for 1:48 decals for either of the two aircrafts during the Gulf of Sidra incident, and would very much appreciate your help. These are two F-14A's from VF-32 Swordsmen. AC202 (LT Hermon C. Cook III/LCDR Steven Patrick Collins 159437 AC202) AC207 (CDR Joseph Bernard Connelly/CDR Leo F. Enwright 159610 AC207) I would very much appreciate if anyone knows if decals exist for these tomcats. Also, I am very much interested in pictures of these planes as they were painted during the incident. Thank you very much in advance. (P.S.: If this is not the right place for this topic, I would be more than happy to move it elsewhere) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex.B Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 I don't know if a specific decal sheet has been produced. Anway this will also interest me... in 1/72 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 There have been a couple of sheets released for 207 in 1/48 scale, but neither quite get it right. You have to mix and match. There is an Almark sheet which has some of what you need, but they say the color scheme is the original TPS with light gray on the undersides, which is incorrect. Also, the stenciling and markings are too light. The Repliscale sheet has the correct dark stenciling and markings, but the squadron markings are too dark. The Superscale sheet, while not for that particular aircraft, actually has pretty good squadron markings. By combining parts of these sheets, you can get a good representation of Gypsy 207. In 1/72 scale, there was a Hasegawa special release that contained markings for almost every aircraft in VF-32, including Gypsy 202 and 207. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sig Saur & Son Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) This was taken on 29Jan89 when they returned to Oceana. Note the touch-up over the two. This is where the original kill was painted while still on the boat. Copyright David F. Brown Edited February 7, 2010 by Sig Saur & Son Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted February 7, 2010 Author Share Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) Thank you very much for your responses. Darren, today I found an older post on the same issue and your response consistent with your response above. http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....showtopic=96565 Just thought would add it here for others. I have also found the following site with Almark decals and what I want is in 72 scale. Nonetheless, it may be useful for others again: http://www.andysmodels.me.uk/models/images...ls/AL_72C14.htm http://www.andysmodels.me.uk/models/Tomcats_004.htm Darren, I have a question about the paint scheme though. You said it is not the TPS scheme, is that so? Do you know the right scheme for these two planes? I found the following pdf file: http://www.hannants.co.uk/pdfs/AKC14.pdf and was wondering if I could take this as a reference. Sig, your picture is a really nice shot as a reference. Do you have a bigger version of this, or even more of these pictures? Thank you all so very much. If I can collect enough info and can figure the decal situation out, I would like to build this model in 1:48. -------- Edit: I also wanted to append this link for completeness: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/lofive...hp?t125054.html Edited February 7, 2010 by zidane Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 In regards to the TPS, it's not the original TPS. The original TPS consisted of Light Gray on the undersides. This was later changed to Light Ghost Gray on the undersides. So, Gypsy 207 would have had Light Ghost Gray on the undersides and continuing up the fuselage sides. A ragged anti-glare panel in front of the windscreen would have been Dark Ghost Gray. The upper surfaces were Medium Gray, and the tails were Dark Ghost Gray. It had the TCS under the nose, no ECM blisters, and the older-style U-shaped gun vent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 This has been something we've promised to do since we started. The sheet has full markings, all in the correct color, and info on the shoot down and subsequent changes in paint markings up through the fly-in. It was originally scheduled for well over a year ago but we kept pushing back the release. It will be sometime this year if you wanted to wait... Oh, and these jets weren't painted in the standard TPS (early or late)... -brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sig Saur & Son Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) Here's 159610 also shot on 29Jan89. Photo credit David F. Brown. Had I been thinking decals twenty years ago, I would have done a walk around. The most common mistake I see with decal sheets has to do with the placement of the AC on 202 compared to 207. There are subtle and slight differences on the Vstabs. Edited February 8, 2010 by Sig Saur & Son Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 Great information, thank you all very much. Brian, I would certainly be super excited (and first to purchase :P) about the decals if you make them. Do you think you have a more specific timeline for when they might come out? Iam thinking if I should wait, or start my new model soon. My models take about 4 months to complete. You also said the paint scheme is not the TPS, could you elaborate? Also, I am wondering if any of Hasegawa's 1:48 F-14A's would be ok to model these aircrafts. I've heard some issues with the Hase F-14A models but don't know at what point the issues have been fixed (with the B or D models maybe?). I would thus very much appreciate any help regarding the kit selection. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 This has been something we've promised to do since we started. The sheet has full markings, all in the correct color, and info on the shoot down and subsequent changes in paint markings up through the fly-in. It was originally scheduled for well over a year ago but we kept pushing back the release. It will be sometime this year if you wanted to wait...Oh, and these jets weren't painted in the standard TPS (early or late)... -brian Are you talking colors or demarcation lines? Enquiring minds want to know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoAgs Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 This has been something we've promised to do since we started. The sheet has full markings, all in the correct color, and info on the shoot down and subsequent changes in paint markings up through the fly-in. It was originally scheduled for well over a year ago but we kept pushing back the release. It will be sometime this year if you wanted to wait...Oh, and these jets weren't painted in the standard TPS (early or late)... :D -brian I'm looking for the exact same decals in 1:48 depicting VF-32's: AC202 (LT Hermon C. Cook III/LCDR Steven Patrick Collins 159437 AC202) AC207 (CDR Joseph Bernard Connelly/CDR Leo F. Enwright 159610 AC207) I'll be waiting as well. Thanks :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuji Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 This has been something we've promised to do since we started. It was originally scheduled for well over a year ago but we kept pushing back the release. It will be sometime this year if you wanted to wait...-brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sig Saur & Son Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okthree Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 I've got both the Almark sheet and the Repliscale sheet, but I've held off using them for all the reasons Darren has mentioned. The markings just don't look right. I'm holding out for the Fightertown Sheet. Patience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F14 fan Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Well, Brian, if that's ok with, count me in for that 1:48 Mig killers sheet.... Just curious, do you plan to make both aircraft???? And with the kill marks on??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dagger00 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 and the older-style U-shaped gun vent. Darren, I suppose you are refering to that vent with louvers in it, Am I right?.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F14 fan Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Darren, I suppose you are refering to that vent with louvers in it, Am I right?.... Check the Tomcat gun vents here... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Darren, I suppose you are refering to that vent with louvers in it, Am I right?.... You would be correct! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoAgs Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) This has been something we've promised to do since we started. The sheet has full markings, all in the correct color, and info on the shoot down and subsequent changes in paint markings up through the fly-in. It was originally scheduled for well over a year ago but we kept pushing back the release. It will be sometime this year if you wanted to wait... Oh, and these jets weren't painted in the standard TPS (early or late)... -brian Brian, I'm not sure if you're still working on these sheets, but here are some clear photos from 1989 of AC 202 and 207 with kill markings. 202 has one above the side number on the nose and 207 has at least one on the right vertical stab. http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/0267ag.jpg http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/0267aga.jpg Both pics from the following page: http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/67a.htm Edited August 27, 2012 by GoAgs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captoveur Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I may be wrong, But I seem to be under the impression these markings are in the 1/48 Revell F-14A box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I may be wrong, But I seem to be under the impression these markings are in the 1/48 Revell F-14A box. I've built many of the Revell F-14's, and the only options I've ever seen were VF-142 (the original scheme with the yellow/white rudder stripes), VF-111, and VF-33. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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