Aggressor Supporter Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Somersault happened at about 1:25 in the video. Bam, just had a chance to watch the video again. To me, it looks like it did a very controlled micro loop in a square shape using it's thrust vectoring to square the edges. That's just my perspective, you're probably right though. :huh: Probably a better depiction would be the fencer in the 'On Guard' position and a Ninja dropping down from above and behind him with a Samurai sword in full swing.Regards Jim Barr I like the idea. The F-22 "Ninja" has a good ring to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Overhead yesterday at the duty desk, from TOPGUN's BFM SME, who had the chance to fight a Raptor piloted by our exchange dude -"that thing is <expletive deleted> magic" "the laws of physics do not apply to that airplane" :huh: Thanks Karl for posting that. Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Does the F-22 have a false canopy? Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Does the F-22 have a false canopy? I believe it does.....but you can't see it. Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Good answer! :huh: Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Good answer! :D Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Does the F-22 have a false canopy? Insert "opening stuck canopy with a radial saw" joke here-> .............................. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Chladek Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hmmm, Ninja as an unofficial nickname sounds perfect to me. We have the Rhino, the Aardvark, the Thud, the Warthog, the Viper. Why not the Ninja? Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Insert "opening stuck canopy with a radial saw" joke here-> .............................. :D I was just thinking of that one the other day.... Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Why not the Ninja? Or we go the way of the previous twin-engine, twin-tail, single seat, air superiority fighter, and call it by its knighted (and very cool) name. Link to post Share on other sites
Chappie Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Overhead yesterday at the duty desk, from TOPGUN's BFM SME, who had the chance to fight a Raptor piloted by our exchange dude -"that thing is <expletive deleted> magic" "the laws of physics do not apply to that airplane" I love it!! The more I read about this airplane the more it amazes me. How can one not be awed by its appearance and capabilities? Too bad we can't take a Raptor back to 1903 and show the Wright Brothers what has become of their invention. As a maintenance guy, I love the fact that we are starting to have paperless airplanes. Will the F-35 be as maintanece friendly? Chappie Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) This thread is most amusing. ...(and very cool) name. I'd call that a pretty subjective issue and certainly up for personal interpretation, but hey... you're the one flying it -Jeremy (who sees the appropriateness in bird-of-prey names, but somehow thinks they could be cooler) Edited February 23, 2007 by Skull Leader Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Or we go the way of the previous twin-engine, twin-tail, single seat, air superiority fighter, and call it by its knighted (and very cool) name. Rodan II it is then ! Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Chappie Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 It said in there that the F-22 has 20,000lbs more thrust than the F-15. So, the 22 has 70,000lbs of thrust?? Yikes. Chappie Link to post Share on other sites
Mark S. Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Overhead yesterday at the duty desk, from TOPGUN's BFM SME, who had the chance to fight a Raptor piloted by our exchange dude -"that thing is <expletive deleted> magic" "the laws of physics do not apply to that airplane" Guess it's a good thing the ol Tomcat rode off into the sunset before the current Red Flag! Mark (running for cover) Link to post Share on other sites
RedIndian Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Well, if the F-22 hadn't all these advantages over the legacy fighters, it wouldn't be worth all that *** money. :) Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Hmmm, Ninja as an unofficial nickname sounds perfect to me. We have the Rhino, the Aardvark, the Thud, the Warthog, the Viper. Why not the Ninja? Ninja or as GreyGhost recommended Rodan II (too) sounds good as the unofficial nickname. Well, if the F-22 hadn't all these advantages over the legacy fighters, it wouldn't be worth all that *** money. Which is why it's important (at least to me) to highlight and mention the success of the Raptor. Let's face it, the various media outlets is not as friendly to the Raptor program. How many times have we read of the various nagging little problems and to have it blown all out of proportion by them, not to mention somebody always asking is the Raptor's "high" price tag justified? Do we want to keep hearing about this negative things? I don't. I want to hear how my tax dollars is help funding the best and most lethal fighter ever developed. I want to hear how well it does. I want to hear how well it works with other platforms in a joint environment to get the job done, etc. The general population is very short sighted and short on memory. Constant reinforcement of how good the Raptor is and how well it does it's job I believe is important in support of the program. All of this is, of course, is just my opinion. Edited February 23, 2007 by Raptor Supporter Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Dozer's comment on the Raptor's performance at Red Flag at Fencecheck: I was at the Red Flag, Chaps (the RAAF guy), was pretty funny about the whole F-22 thing. Flew against him. This article echoes what I and other F-22 pilots have been trying to say, the F-22 dominates, even in the toughest scenarios we can throw at it - it's not made up or a urban legend, its really an incredible machine. Its not biased F-22 guys you have to trust, there are regular fighter pilots flying against the F-22 every day that can attest to what this jet is capable of, regardless of what Sperry & company may think. Some people still think an F-16 can outmaneuver an F-22, can't convince everyone..... Link to post Share on other sites
Karl Sander Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Guess it's a good thing the ol Tomcat rode off into the sunset before the current Red Flag!Mark (running for cover) In the interest of helping the inevitable carping be more accurate, the guy in question is a Hornet pilot. Link to post Share on other sites
RedIndian Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 @Raptor Supporter: I didn't want to offend you or anyone here or step on s.o. toes. I just thought, with the money spent on the development of the F-22, all Americans should expect to get the best of the best possible fighter. No problem with underlining its superioty. Here in Germany, the media and politics did tear the Eurofighter program as well. I never fully comprehend that criticism. Now it entered operational service and I like it to see it in the air. (Although I am a purebred legacy Hornet fan). Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ya know what, I'm glad for this thread...seems like I never hear anything on its true capabilities, other than standard limited specs (length, weight, manufacturer, top speed, etc) which doesn't really paint a very complete picture. I'm very reassured reading this... Link to post Share on other sites
Scot M Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I can't wait to see it fly in person...IF I get the chance... I've have never been WORTHY enough to see a Tweet demo... I never get invited..so I guess I'm scum... * sniff sniff* Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 So you're saying that since you failed to see the mighty Tweet, you can at least be playing second fiddle by seeing the Raptor? :lol: Link to post Share on other sites
Scot M Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Pretty much..... and I guess if I'm not worthy to see the Raptor,....well... ahem *sniff*.... then I'll just fling myself into the path of a taxiing Cessna 172 Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Pretty much..... and I guess if I'm not worthy to see the Raptor,....well... ahem *sniff*.... then I'll just fling myself into the path of a taxiing Cessna 172 :lol: Nooo!!! Anything but that! Hey, wait...I used to fly those! (huh) Hmmm...I wonder what the "Yugo" of the aircraft world would be? That could be quite a thread in itself! Link to post Share on other sites
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