GregS Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Bought a kit with photo etch from Mel on June 24, 2009 as of this date I have still not recieived this kit, numerous PM's (one a month, I stopped asking in November) always had the kit going out in the next batch to be mailed, with delivery expected in a week or two at most. I'm sure I'll be looked on as a cold ba$terd, and I have been patient waiting, but Sorry, finding out that Mel is still making deals as recently as December when he has yet to complete deals as old as 7 months has me to the point of posting this. Mel, I'm sure you have your problems, so if you can't send the kit...........refund the money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glen the Rotorhead Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Greg, no need to apologize - most of us like to know who the thieves are that haunt the various modeling sites. Two others to watch out for are Richard Owen Morgan of Cambridgeshire UK (lost $800 to him after court settlement) and Pat "Charlie" Anderson of Watertown, WI (lost $115 to him - small claims pending). And frankly, once you stop making any pretense of meeting your commitments, you go from deadbeat to thief status in my book. And by the way - in both of the above cases my first instinct was to walk away. Always trust your first instincts! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticWeapons Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Don't forget David Lynn Harris of Greensboro, North Carolina. Have not forgotten this fella and always on the lookout for his aliases here and on other websites. He's stolen a lot of money from fellow modelers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregS Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 UPDATE I got a PM from "Mel" after he was informed of this thread. He appologized and mailed the kit. Kit arrived today in good condition. He gave a few reasons/explanations for the "delay" in his PM. I will not comment on any of that. I am just happy to have this end in a positive manner. To any others waiting he said he is still catching up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mp88 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 UPDATEI got a PM from "Mel" after he was informed of this thread. He appologized and mailed the kit. Kit arrived today in good condition. He gave a few reasons/explanations for the "delay" in his PM. I will not comment on any of that. I am just happy to have this end in a positive manner. To any others waiting he said he is still catching up. Congratulations on getting your end of the deal. Hopefully, this will mean that I'll get my stuff too. I've done lots of deals over in the Hyperscale and steelnavy, and never had a problem. I joined ARC in mid-May, and get screwed immediately. Fortunately, the subsequent deals with the various members of this forum has gone on without any hitches, but it was a hell of an introduction to the members here. CW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glen the Rotorhead Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Congratulations on getting your end of the deal. Hopefully, this will mean that I'll get my stuff too. I've done lots of deals over in the Hyperscale and steelnavy, and never had a problem. I joined ARC in mid-May, and get screwed immediately. Fortunately, the subsequent deals with the various members of this forum has gone on without any hitches, but it was a hell of an introduction to the members here.CW Interesting observation CW. I too have been take here (BIG TIME) and on Large Scale Planes, but never on Hyperscale, Missing Lynx or Steel Navy. I wonder if that's just a coincidence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ericp Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 (edited) He has not answered my last couple of emails ... so for me it's 8 months and counting. I do hope that he eventually gets around to shipping what he owes several of us here, and if he could get to the post office to ship GregS's kit, I wonder why not more ? Especially in my case where in his last email in December, things were "boxed up and ready to ship". Sigh. Tom, we understand you have issues, but please clear this up ... at the very least, maintain your integrity and reputation, if it's as important to you as you have said to me. Edited February 11, 2010 by ericp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
r0t0rdr1ver Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I haven't heard from Tom in quite some time also...hope you're doing ok... :unsure: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unit19 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I paid Tom for a model with some aftermarket items on December 17. He's replied to most of my emails with promises to ship it right out each time, but still nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I paid Tom for an aircraft kit and accessories in Feburary 2009 ( yes a year ago). I have had many emails promising the kits and replacements etc. Leaves a bit of a sour taste after I have have numerous deailings with people on the ARC site and have found everyone more than helpfull here. I guess I will have to write the $100 off which I might add was paid straight away with PayPal when I had received the final amount from Tom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unit19 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Okay, I'm beginning to get perturbed about this situation. If he is too busy or too ill to handle his responsibilities, why can't he ask a friend or family member to take some boxes to the post office? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airforce Brat Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Looks like I'm not the only one! Tom Bell has taken me for way too much with promises of shipping items. I did get some but still am owed a bunch of kits. I know he is was going through some tough times.......or so he says. Shame on me for letting him suck me in, I should have proceeded with the Paypal claim! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrowTRobot Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I had a similar experience. I bought a couple of items from Tom in August 2009 and still have not received them. We exchanged PM's over the months, and each time he explained his predicament and indicated a willingness to make good on the deal. I trusted him because I knew he had a good reputation here on ARC, but I have my limits. I've asked him for a refund 2 or 3 times since December. I figure if he can't get to the post office he can at least get to PayPal to refund my money. So far my requests have been ignored. I find it interesting that this thread started on Jan. 30, and according to Tom's profile page he hasn't been seen since on ARC since Feb. 5. Is it hot in here, or is it just me? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liberator24 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Very sad.......I have had some tough erxperiences with Tom but he did finally come through. I would hope he would take care of his issue with sellers in some way, even if it was to have someone help him get it out.... Well, as Shrek said, Grab your torch and pitchforks! -Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airforce Brat Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) Well I emailed Tom ( I have his personal Email) And basically told him to get it together and ship the kits........all the kits.....for everyone! I also told him I was going to start emailing his suppliers and the people he writes for if I didn't get a response from him. I know this seems harsh but this guy has taken way too many people, And I hate getting screwed! You know when all this 1st went down I felt sorry for him but now I see he has done the same thing to many other people it just makes me mad! :( And I feel stupid I didn't go with my gut! I will post on this thread as soon as I hear anything. Mark Edited March 8, 2010 by Airforce Brat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airforce Brat Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 (edited) Well, i have agreed to take my foot off the pedal so to speak as Patrick Nevin has said he is going to try to right this situation. I have had some heated P.M's back and forth basically calling him (Mel) out for what he is and telling him that he had very poor excuses (I know many many people with medical issues who continue to be honest individuals), we'll see what happens in the next week or two. I have edited my post......but there is still no excuse for the poor way he has handled these transactions. As far as "my" kits I have written them off long ago and will be surprised to see them. Mark Edited March 8, 2010 by Airforce Brat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick_Nevin Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Well here is the correspondence I had with Tom today.........Enjoy (Sorry guys you'll have to start from the bottom up) Mark, This is all very unfortunate and I truly appreciate your ire. However can I ask you to take your foot off the pedal for a week or so? Tom (who I do regard as a good friend) has as you say been quite seriously ill. Now I myself react badly - whether this is right or wrong - to personal criticism when debilitated through even mild sickness. Think that's what's happened here. I don't say I condone what's happened, but I do understand it. I thoroughly appreciate why you feel put out by this, but I think we all (as a community in ARC) want to see this resolved happily, rather than the easier option of chasing the offender scapegoat-style off the board without resolving the outstanding deals. This is what I believe we'll accomplish if we raise the post octane level much further. The rhetoric about basement dwellers is self defence only - we are all tinkerers with the same sort of plastic at the end of the day. It turns out I'm over in the US next week (blame Deus Ex: have a hankering to see Battery Park) and am planning to meet up with Tom then. Hopefully we can discuss face to face and move things on. Until then, I ask you again to ease up, because otherwise it will just make things more difficult to fix. Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airforce Brat Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Patrick I have edited my post, but the issue I have is he continued to sell kits in December 09 well still not shipping out what he had sold from February 09, if he had that much of a conscience he would have stopped selling until he could fulfill his other obligations. To me it seems like he did this deliberately with no intention of shipping out kits. I do hope you can help clean up this mess Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick_Nevin Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I have edited my post, but the issue I have is he continued to sell kits in December 09 well still not shipping out what he had sold from February 09, if he had that much of a conscience he would have stopped selling until he could fulfill his other obligations. To me it seems like he did this deliberately with no intention of shipping out kits. Thanks Mark - appreciated. Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Well I ordered stuff from 'Mel' early last year, I thought it had been lost in the post and he offered to replace the sets when he could. I just heard from him today and he has found the sets and will be sending them out to me. Now I think that was mighty fine of him to make the effort to contact me after almost 12 months to tell me my etch was on its way. Thanks Mel!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darth2307 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 I too had ordered a kit from Tom back in Aug of 09. He has kept in constant contact with me and I know my kit has been shipped as of last week. He has always been great to communicate with and work with. A little patience will go a long way in the world. Thanks again Tom. Brandon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airforce Brat Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Hey Thats great that Tom is getting some stuff out. You have to understand though lots of us have waited for a year or more...... I think we have been more than patient. Anyway good to see you are getting your kit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dsmith Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I know it may take awhile, but Tom is a good guy, and I don't think he has any intention of ripping anybody off. I have had many deals with him, and he always comes through. Cheers, -Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darth2307 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I received my kit from Tom last night! Just wanted to let everyone know this. Just keep in contact with him. He is a great guy and doesn't want to rip anyone off. Thanks Tom! Brandon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrowTRobot Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 It's been a month since the last post - has anyone else got what they ordered from Tom? I'm still waiting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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