ya-gabor Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) In October this year Modelsvit is to release the M-55 Geophisica. A big one with a wing span of 520mm so try to find space for it. The line of Su-17’s is continuing with an early M3 version. Well it is still with the Ljulka engine so we will have to wait for the R-29 version further. The M4 is also in the pipeline. the paint schemes in the box And a bit of view of the kit Modelsvit had few hints on their fake book about future releases. "Be advised that till the end of this year we are planning to release 3 "western" kits in 1/48 - P-51H Mustang, Messerchmitt Bf-109D1, Bf-109C3...Next year to be released at least 5 western warplanes kits, both in 1/72 and 1/48 scale." Best regards Gabor Edited September 5, 2019 by ya-gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 How about a Yak-41 Freestyle in 1/48th scale. 🙄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 It is very easy! Write to them. As far as I know they do regularly read comments on their fake book pages and give consideration to ideas. So who knows . . . But I think for the moment they do have a handful of work to do with all the kits already in production and development. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ya-gabor said: In October this year Modelsvit is to release the M-55 Geophisica Great news - it will make an interesting companion to their previously released M-17 'Startosphera'..... I took some photos of the M-55 at previous MAKS shows...... so I'm ready.... Ken Edited September 5, 2019 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 Hi Ken, And is the extension to the house is ready for the M-55 and the Mrija? 😁 😁 😁 😁 Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 Sorry I left out an important part of this news, the Su-17M3 kit should also be out in October. Here is what Modelsvit was saying on fake book: Hello friends, Following your requests, we are continuing the Su-17's family. This October to be released Su-17M3 “Early vers.” with various missile armament. The set includes pair of R-60, Kh-23, Kh-25, Kh-29 missiles, missile control pod, external fuel tanks PTB-800, 2 canopies (open/closed), PE sheet, adhesive masks and decals for 3 coloring schemes. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fintajoe Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 ....And still not the R-29 Version.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 8 hours ago, ya-gabor said: It is very easy! Write to them. As far as I know they do regularly read comments on their fake book pages and give consideration to ideas. So who knows . . . But I think for the moment they do have a handful of work to do with all the kits already in production and development. Best regards Gabor Thank you, Gabor! Will do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madcop Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 14 hours ago, ya-gabor said: Sorry I left out an important part of this news, the Su-17M3 kit should also be out in October. Here is what Modelsvit was saying on fake book: Hello friends, Following your requests, we are continuing the Su-17's family. This October to be released Su-17M3 “Early vers.” with various missile armament. The set includes pair of R-60, Kh-23, Kh-25, Kh-29 missiles, missile control pod, external fuel tanks PTB-800, 2 canopies (open/closed), PE sheet, adhesive masks and decals for 3 coloring schemes. Best regards Gabor Hi Gabor Could you please tell us the main and small differences we may expect from this model compared to the Late or "regular" Su-17M3. Many thanks. Madcop. ( Any news from your 1/72 MiG-21 from Edu ? ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, madcop said: Hi Gabor Could you please tell us the main and small differences we may expect from this model compared to the Late or "regular" Su-17M3. Many thanks. Madcop. ( Any news from your 1/72 MiG-21 from Edu ? ) Hi Madcop, I haven’t seen the latest kit so have no idea what they changed. I believe there are some constructional changes and of course the weapons set with lots of mud mowing precision thingies to be hung under wings and fuselage. This is now kit № 72044 (M3 early) and the one released what is it more than a year or two ago was № 72047 (Su-17M3). The early had a shorter fin top with rounded cover, it did not have the ventral fin, it did not have all those Afgan modifications for self defence (the numerous ASO-2 dispensers on the back) and of course the guided weapons. The early aircraft were mainly flying in natural metal receiving camo only much later. For a full line of Su-17 family it is (it was) an obvious choice for Modelsvit. Now we have to wait for the M4 version for which they have said that it is in design but at the moment don’t have a release date. And of course the one which would be interesting to Hungarians and some other export customers who had the Su-22 with the R-29 engine in the back resulting in a fat fool with many, many changes to the airframe. For this a brand new fuselage will have to be made along with stabs, fin, engine exhaust . . . They did promise that one day it will also be here, so . . . If you at Modelsvit read this, COME ON do the the R-29 version also!!!!!!!!! Sorry the 3 MiG-21 MF’s are on a side track at the moment. As my Polish friend is saying There are so many ideas and so little time. :(( A lot of projects and work on different things takes most of the time, including the occasional visit (now that it is still summer and good weather) to see some real aircraft and do measuring first hand, getting into dusty archives for research . . . I hope very soon you will be able to see some results through photoetch corrections that I did for Edu, there is that August release 48th 21bis kit for which designed the Hungarian decal, another decal is in progress, other kits /other manufacturers are also in making . . . Sorry those small 21MF’s are parking and gathering dust at the moment, while their bigger brother, a 21bis is taking shape to show that yellow scheme. A lot of work to try to make something of it. Hope your DeVilbiss Super 63 is working fine! 😊 😊 Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madcop Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, ya-gabor said: Hi Madcop, I haven’t seen the latest kit so have no idea what they changed. I believe there are some constructional changes and of course the weapons set with lots of mud mowing precision thingies to be hung under wings and fuselage. This is now kit № 72044 (M3 early) and the one released what is it more than a year or two ago was № 72047 (Su-17M3). The early had a shorter fin top with rounded cover, it did not have the ventral fin, it did not have all those Afgan modifications for self defence (the numerous ASO-2 dispensers on the back) and of course the guided weapons. The early aircraft were mainly flying in natural metal receiving camo only much later. For a full line of Su-17 family it is (it was) an obvious choice for Modelsvit. Now we have to wait for the M4 version for which they have said that it is in design but at the moment don’t have a release date. And of course the one which would be interesting to Hungarians and some other export customers who had the Su-22 with the R-29 engine in the back resulting in a fat fool with many, many changes to the airframe. For this a brand new fuselage will have to be made along with stabs, fin, engine exhaust . . . They did promise that one day it will also be here, so . . . If you at Modelsvit read this, COME ON do the the R-29 version also!!!!!!!!! Sorry the 3 MiG-21 MF’s are on a side track at the moment. As my Polish friend is saying There are so many ideas and so little time. :(( A lot of projects and work on different things takes most of the time, including the occasional visit (now that it is still summer and good weather) to see some real aircraft and do measuring first hand, getting into dusty archives for research . . . I hope very soon you will be able to see some results through photoetch corrections that I did for Edu, there is that August release 48th 21bis kit for which designed the Hungarian decal, another decal is in progress, other kits /other manufacturers are also in making . . . Sorry those small 21MF’s are parking and gathering dust at the moment, while their bigger brother, a 21bis is taking shape to show that yellow scheme. A lot of work to try to make something of it. Hope your DeVilbiss Super 63 is working fine! 😊 😊 Best regards Gabor Thanks Gabor for all these precisions, although I couldn't find a picture of Su-17M3 with the "early" fin. Even the one in Monino has got the square fin !....This bird must have been short lived, but anyway I am in for one... for sure. I also got the last Edu MiG-21(bis !) . Sorry but I felt in love with this Croatian bird. And as we never have enough MiG-21 at home... Like you , my Edu Mig-21 is in his box, waiting for news from yours. So it looked like I may be busy on other subjects, awaiting for your updates. I suppose I'll have the time to read this nice book about the MiG-21 twice !.. As you say, life is too short and there are tooooooo many nice models coming out . My DeVilbiss performs always like a DeVilbiss, flawless , but I must admit that I am using my Harder and Steenbeck EVOLUTION far more often. Best regards and watch your six! Madcop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 One more difference should be the ejection seat. I have the original Su-17 M3 kit and it has the late version K-36DM Series 2 seat. I would say that the early still had the original K-36 DM seat with the bigger headrest, same as the one used on Su-24's to this day. I dont know if Modelsvit made this difference. Will see it later. For the Su-22M3 with R-29 they will have to include the bigger headrest of the early version as this is the type we had. Just to make things simple before this the earlier version Su-17's used the home grown KS seats. :))) Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madcop Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 12 hours ago, ya-gabor said: One more difference should be the ejection seat. I have the original Su-17 M3 kit and it has the late version K-36DM Series 2 seat. I would say that the early still had the original K-36 DM seat with the bigger headrest, same as the one used on Su-24's to this day. I dont know if Modelsvit made this difference. Will see it later. For the Su-22M3 with R-29 they will have to include the bigger headrest of the early version as this is the type we had. Just to make things simple before this the earlier version Su-17's used the home grown KS seats. :))) Best regards Gabor Thanks for these late infos. For your information ( but you already know I suppose) TEMP MODELS Ru is having 1/72 Resin K36DM , K36D and K36D-3.5 in their range . I have those and they look very nice and well detailed. Now are they 100% correct ... I am not the specialist ! Have a nice day. Madcop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, madcop said: For your information ( but you already know I suppose) TEMP MODELS Ru is having 1/72 Resin K36DM , K36D and K36D-3.5 Madcop I would not like to comment on these seats. The ones I have seen are from NeOmega and they are a joke, have absolutely nothing to do with the real seat. But it is all a question of taste. There are many kits which obviously need aftermarkets. The K-36DM Seria 2 seat in the Modelsvit kit of Su-17M3 № 72047 is almost perfect. OK one has to build it from 23 separate plastic parts in some cases of extremely small size. Isn’t this what plastic modelling is all about??? Remember this is 72nd scale!!!!!!! But I understand that some prefer an aftermarket, just drop it in and it is all done. It is a question of taste and modelling skills. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 Here are some fresh pictures from fake book of the new M-55 Geophysica sprues and extras from the Modelsvit kit in 72 nd. It is a big one not only as a model and the wing span but in actual life standing next to it one appreciates its dimensions! Seen it taking off at MAKS and WOW it went up with the ease of a light fighter at a very steep angle. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldog 09 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 How is the progress on the Mirage 2000 kit coming along? Dave Fassett Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Bulldog 09 said: How is the progress on the Mirage 2000 kit coming along? Dave Fassett Sorry. Have no idea! I am not connected with Modelsvit so have no information on what they are doing. The best you can do is to ask them directly on fake book. They do read it. https://www.facebook.com/modelsvit/?ref=py_c It is obvious that they are not a type of company who communicate before they know for certain about new releases. The pattern has been that they show what they are doing, boxart, sprues, CAD when they are well into next or even final (pre-release) stage of a project. One more thing concerning the Su-17M3 kit. There is also a difference in production batches where the nose bay door is made of either simply left and right or they are broken down each into two separate door parts. Actually the earlier kit version № 72047 had both versions also included on sprue E and it was offered as an option. Don’t ask me where the changeover was to 2 part bay doors from the earlier 4 part unit. I think not even the Russians know it exactly. OK I think the Sukhoj designers know it but . . . Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nikolay Polyakov Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, ya-gabor said: Don’t ask me where the changeover was to 2 part bay doors from the earlier 4 part unit. I think not even the Russians know it exactly. OK I think the Sukhoj designers know it but . . . As I read somewhere, these interesting construction was made after the long research and the main landing gear has a pushrod suspension that pulling in the wing mechanically. That’s why the bay doors are 4-part unit - just to «puzzle» into the one-piece door without actuators. Original text: «После долгих исканий было найдено простое и рациональное решение: крепить колеса главного шасси на рычажной подвеске и убирать в крыло механическим подтягом. Зазоры между стойками шасси при уборке их в крыло уменьшили. Данная схема, не имеющая аналогов в отечественном и зарубежном самолетостроении, оказалась весьма удачной.» Please correct me if I’m wrong. Edited September 8, 2019 by Nikolay Polyakov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silver Seraph Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The moulding look absolutely exquisite, as on all Modelsvit recent releases. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sakai Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 3:43 PM, ya-gabor said: Sorry I left out an important part of this news, the Su-17M3 kit should also be out in October. Here is what Modelsvit was saying on fake book: Hello friends, Following your requests, we are continuing the Su-17's family. This October to be released Su-17M3 “Early vers.” with various missile armament. The set includes pair of R-60, Kh-23, Kh-25, Kh-29 missiles, missile control pod, external fuel tanks PTB-800, 2 canopies (open/closed), PE sheet, adhesive masks and decals for 3 coloring schemes. Best regards Gabor It is FACEBOOK Gabor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, sakai said: It is FACEBOOK Gabor. It is not by accident that I wrote FAKE BOOK. I could have written RIP-OFF BOOK or SPY BOOK, FRAUD BOOK or lots of other names. They are just as true! Thing is everyone knows what I meant and they know exactly where to look for any additional information. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 hours ago, ya-gabor said: It is not by accident that I wrote FAKE BOOK. I could have written RIP-OFF BOOK or SPY BOOK, FRAUD BOOK or lots of other names. They are just as true! Thing is everyone knows what I meant and they know exactly where to look for any additional information. Best regards Gabor That is so edgy that i got a papercut from this comment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Berkut said: That is so edgy that i got a papercut from this comment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/15/2019 at 3:23 PM, Berkut said: That is so edgy that i got a papercut from this comment. Truth has a cutting edge! :)) Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 17 hours ago, ya-gabor said: Truth has a cutting edge! :)) Best regards Gabor You guys are killing me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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