Tapchan Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I believe that for Su-30MKI you'll just need decals. Beside some antennas there is no external difference between SM, MKI and MKA. Only MKM would need some further mods. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/29/2021 at 10:12 AM, mawz said: I'm not an expert, but IIRC the big differences are canards and thrust vectoring, MK doesn't have them, MKI variants, including the SM, have them. Okay. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curt B Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Tapchan said: L4824 still not available in US? European stores started to stock it just days before Christmas, only 6 months after release 😄 No, I still don’t see any L4824 Su-27 kits available from any US stores. And, many, if not most, GWH kits are out of stock in many US model stores. I’m guessing that we are still not getting shipments from China in the container ships offloaded in Los Angeles. The GWH 4824 is the model that I want the most, and I can’t get one!! It is really aggravating! Edited December 30, 2021 by Curt B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, flybywire said: Okay. Thanks! There are also rather different vertical stabilizers, as well. Edited December 30, 2021 by ijozic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary F Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Any news on release date? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 For some of you who do not use Facebook. Some updated news about upcoming GWH L4830 1/48 Su-30SM "Flanker-H" kit, released by Great Wall Hobby Facebook official page. 8 painting schemes 11 types of weapons(+APK-9 pod) Kit shall be on sale in early March 2022 in China domestic market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Armenian is mine 🙂 Bad news, I've just managed to scratchbuild something reminding APK-9 as there was no way to obtain it anywhere else... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Wow ... but anyway; I want a J-16 and a J-16D! Even if I'm aware that they are structurally vastly different alone due to the lack of canards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 I don't like to build jets with canards either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Niels Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Deino said: Wow ... but anyway; I want a J-16 and a J-16D! Even if I'm aware that they are structurally vastly different alone due to the lack of canards. You should be able to convert a regular SU-27UB for making these. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Niels said: You should be able to convert a regular SU-27UB for making these. Anything is possible but there a lot of differences between J-16 and vanilla Su-27UB. Refueling probe, off centered IRS, WS-10, plethora of antennas, landing gear etc.. J-16D doesn't have IRST or gun and has all those pods.. Cockpits are also different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 13 hours ago, Niels said: You should be able to convert a regular SU-27UB for making these. Not everyone likes spending double the price of kit on aftermarkets or even feels good enough to butcher up kit for some conversions. I'd also like to see J-16/D especially because of different armament. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 16 hours ago, Niels said: You should be able to convert a regular SU-27UB for making these. I know, ... but the most limiting factor is not money but my most limited modelling capabilities. 😔 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Regarding J-16, it has both features from Su-27UB and Su-30MKK, with some original features such as Chinese weapon/pylons. So it will need over 70% new tools from modelling perspetive, including the most expensive upper and lower fuselage/wing parts, etc. Is it worth the investment considering the market wallet from popularity? In my view it is quite doubtful, especially if the price is much more expensive than the Trumpter/Hobbyboss kit which is very inaccurate from shape to details though. But afterall, how many buyers will care? Many of them will say "at least it does not look like a F-15 to me", conversation over. J-16D will be another story: The overall aerodynamic shape is same as J-16, but many details are different especially the nose cone dividing line is further forward compared with J-16(like Su-35 vs Su-27). That means you need another new mold for upper and lower fuselage, which is the most expensitve part of the investment. And again, the market demand will be the question mark... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Talking abour MKI, yes I have considered this version when deciding part break down. MKI could be easily made by additional several parts such as HUD, main control panels, warning devices(already in the sprue if you check carefully) etc. And also remove some antennas blabla. It will be released as a seperate product in near future, as far as I heard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 2/24/2022 at 4:16 AM, haneto said: Regarding J-16, it has both features from Su-27UB and Su-30MKK, with some original features such as Chinese weapon/pylons. So it will need over 70% new tools from modelling perspetive, including the most expensive upper and lower fuselage/wing parts, etc. Is it worth the investment considering the market wallet from popularity? In my view it is quite doubtful, especially if the price is much more expensive than the Trumpter/Hobbyboss kit which is very inaccurate from shape to details though. But afterall, how many buyers will care? Many of them will say "at least it does not look like a F-15 to me", conversation over. J-16D will be another story: The overall aerodynamic shape is same as J-16, but many details are different especially the nose cone dividing line is further forward compared with J-16(like Su-35 vs Su-27). That means you need another new mold for upper and lower fuselage, which is the most expensitve part of the investment. And again, the market demand will be the question mark... Market probably is small outside China but Chinese market can be large enough... Great Wall Hobby should have sales numbers for PLAAF Su-35 boxing in China. That will give some clue. Personally I would definitely buy one from both especially J-16D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 Sprue pictures newly uploaded by GWH Facebook official account. Great Wall Hobby G.W.H Model L4830 Su-30SM FLANKER-H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 9 hours ago, haneto said: Sprue pictures newly uploaded by GWH Facebook official account. Great Wall Hobby G.W.H Model L4830 Su-30SM FLANKER-H Love it! Great wall hobby is great. 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapchan Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Can't wait 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 On 12/29/2021 at 7:02 PM, Solo said: Looking at graphics pattern enclosed by haneto cover that kit should be available on Christmas 2022. 🙂 It was probably intended for then, but SARS2 delayed everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mimino Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Any idea when it will be available for purchase? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haneto Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 I head it will be for sale on around 18th March in China domestic market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mimino Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Great, thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mimino Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 any updates on release date? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Production issues slowed its release down thats all. it will be in the supply chain soon, give it a month of so and they will be in Europe. About the USA I dont know, its not a market I care about so dont follow times there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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