Stephen Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 https://uk.airfix.com/products/westland-sea-king-has1has5hu5-a11006 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Posted on another site. Great looking kit. 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buckmeister Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Fantastic news! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeDadofFour Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Would be great if it could be adapted to the SH-3G/-3H config for USN as a replacement to the HAS kit. While the HAS kit is nice for it’s age, at has closed doors and no cabin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winnie Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 hours ago, MikeDadofFour said: Would be great if it could be adapted to the SH-3G/-3H config for USN as a replacement to the HAS kit. While the HAS kit is nice for it’s age, at has closed doors and no cabin. It would require some big mods on the fuselage... But for us Westland fans this is fantastic news! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) For those interested, a former driver of these - and who had some involvement in the kit's development - takes an in-depth look at it as the opener to a 'Work In Progress' thread over at Britmodeller: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235128424-sea-king-has1-xv666-826-nas-hms-eagle-1970-new-tool-148-airfix/ Edited July 27, 2023 by andyf117 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I wonder if they'll expand the kit to include a Junglie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 What’s a “Junglie”? I just hope they do an AEW and HAR 3 with Falklands markings to replace the Hasegawa kits in my stash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ST0RM said: I wonder if they'll expand the kit to include a Junglie Crisp's photos show both a 'Commando Step', as fitted to the HC.4 (and, in a modified form, to the Mk.50), and a pair of AN/ALQ-157 units... 1 hour ago, Dave Williams said: What’s a “Junglie”? I just hope they do an AEW and HAR 3 with Falklands markings to replace the Hasegawa kits in my stash. In the case of the Sea King, the HC.4 (derived from the export 'Commando' version), used by the squadrons of what eventually became the Commando Helicopter Force, known as the 'Junglies' - they originally almost exclusively transported/supported the Royal Marines, before CHF became part of JHC... ....the nickname 'Junglies' was coined for the Whirlwinds which first operated in the CHF role, and was successively passed down to the Wessex and then Sea King, and now the Merlin HC.4... As with the HC.4-specific part shown in Crisp's sprue shots, indications are that the HAR.3 version is likely to follow (and possibly the similar Mk.41/43/48) - he does, however, suggest that the AEW.2 (and later ASaC.7) are unlikely to appear, due to more extensive changes being needed. Edited July 27, 2023 by andyf117 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Great article! That's promising. A new tool Whirlwind or Wessex would be fantastic too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Tapsell Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Dave Williams said: What’s a “Junglie”? I just hope they do an AEW and HAR 3 with Falklands markings to replace the Hasegawa kits in my stash. As Andy explained, they are/were the troop transport/utility variant of the Westland airframe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hajo L. Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 A curious side question: This "green-white" camo-scheme of the Junglie... Is it a real scheme or just some commemorative painting? HAJO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Tapsell Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 A 1 hour ago, Hajo L. said: A curious side question: This "green-white" camo-scheme of the Junglie... Is it a real scheme or just some commemorative painting? HAJO Andy probably has a better take on this but I think this particular airframe was an anniversary scheme. However, I believe it reflects the use of arctic camouflage when Junglies were deployed to Norway on a regular basis for exercises. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Tapsell Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) Just as a random aside, the Royal Navy and Royal Marines refer to their transports as Junglies. However, the army have long referred to RAF Wessex and Pumas doing a similar role as 'cabs' (you call a cab when you need one). Edited July 28, 2023 by John Tapsell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) On 7/27/2023 at 3:20 PM, andyf117 said: he does, however, suggest that the AEW.2 (and later ASaC.7) are unlikely to appear, due to more extensive changes being needed. Assume the extensive changes they are talking about are for the cabin? Other than the radome, the exterior looks pretty standard with regards to antennas and other lumps and bumps. If Airfix doesn’t do an AEW, I may just do my own using the aftermarket deflated radome that I bought for the Hasegawa kit and keep the cabin door closed. Edited July 28, 2023 by Dave Williams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, John Tapsell said: Andy probably has a better take on this but I think this particular airframe was an anniversary scheme. However, I believe it reflects the use of arctic camouflage when Junglies were deployed to Norway on a regular basis for exercises. Quite correct - the HC.4 squadrons regularly participated in arctic and mountain warfare training exercises in Norway, and temporary white camouflage was applied to the aircraft; some engaged in the IFOR/SFOR missions also carried the scheme: 9 hours ago, Dave Williams said: Assume the extensive changes they are talking about are for the cabin? Other than the radome, the exterior looks pretty standard with regards to antennas and other lumps and bumps. If Airfix doesn’t do an AEW, I may just do my own using the aftermarket deflated radome that I bought for the Hasegawa kit and keep the cabin door closed. As Crisp puts it in his BM thread referenced above: "Because of the comprehensive interior in this kit, I reckon AEW2/ASaC7 is the least likely future boxing - they’d have to completely redo the interior, as well as the more obvious door mod and the colostomy bag." As a former 'Pinger' (and later SAR pilot), note his slightly derogatory term for the inflatable radome - the AEW crews were known as 'Baggers'! 10 hours ago, John Tapsell said: Just as a random aside, the Royal Navy and Royal Marines refer to their transports as Junglies. However, the army have long referred to RAF Wessex and Pumas doing a similar role as 'cabs' (you call a cab when you need one). FAA crews themselves also referred to their aircraft as 'cabs', regardless of role... Edited July 29, 2023 by andyf117 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zerosystem Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 On 7/26/2023 at 8:22 PM, Winnie said: It would require some big mods on the fuselage... But for us Westland fans this is fantastic news! Maybe for an -H but an A or early D the mods look minimal on the exterior Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyf117 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 5 hours ago, zerosystem said: Maybe for an -H but an A or early D the mods look minimal on the exterior Main things would be removal of the third generator bulge on the port side of the 'doghouse' which was specific to the Westland versions, and addition of the roughly diamond-shaped fairing under the nose... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 hours ago, andyf117 said: removal of the third generator bulge on the port side of the 'doghouse' which was specific to the Westland versions For what I could see it appears that is built into the mold and not a separate piece like some 1/72 kits making the fix a little harder. Can anyone confirm that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winnie Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Tank said: For what I could see it appears that is built into the mold and not a separate piece like some 1/72 kits making the fix a little harder. Can anyone confirm that? It is in the mold yes. Not impossible, but a pain for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Kit has been released. Looks like Hannants got enough to fill preorders and then sold out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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