HASEGAWA F-86 MK 6 1/48 WITH KASL SLATS/FLAPS, VERLINDEN GUN BAYS, B&B RESIN DESIGN (AMS) SUGAR SCOOPS AND AIRES SEAT.

[Snowbird3a]

On 12/3/2023 at 5:30 AM, barkin mad said:

I think Canadair Mk5s were painted in RAF BS colours (Dk grn/Dk Sea Grey ov PRU blue) initially in Europe, but later at the Factory, Mk6s were delivered in nat. metal and later painted in Germany with the RAL colours.

 

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Mk5s were delivered in NMF, then painted in Europe,  RCAF Mk6s were delivered in camo paint from Canadair.  Luftwaffe Mk6s were delivered in NMF, though

 

Tony

Edited December 17, 2023 by Snowbird3a

[dai phan]

Hello everyone,

 

Started working on the wings today. The KASL flaps are beautiful with finely recessed lines. The resin wing tips supplied by Hasegawa is short and will need to be corrected. Dai 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2023 by dai phan

[dai phan]

Hi all,

 

Onto the cockpit. I went ahead and use the kit's tub as aftermarket cockpit sets do not fit well at all. I have do lots of trimming so the left console does not interfer with the gun bay. I could never get satisfactory results with molded in seat belts so I may use another seat with Eduard PE belts. Dai 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2023 by dai phan

[dai phan]

Yo all,

 

Dry fit everything and some seams will need to be worked on. Dai 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2023 by dai phan

[dai phan]

Tomorrow will be closing of the fuse. Dai 

 

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Edited December 17, 2023 by dai phan

[lgl007]

Lookin good... a bit of a gap but nothing that some putty can't handle 😉  Really liking the work you're putting into this jet...

 

-Greg

[dai phan]

Happy Holidays everyone...

 

Not happy with the cockpit tub so I stripped the paint, removed the instrument panel and used the kit's IP.  The kit 's IP has well raised dials so painting is very easy. The Eduard PE panel is oversized and I could not get a decent look after trimming. Also use the Aires seat with Eduard's seat belts. Interestingly the Aires and Quicboost seats are indentical except the Quickboost has the seat belts and foot rests casted in. I could never get good results by painting the seat belts. Dai

 

PS: The KASL slats has arrived to the US on 12/5/23 and nothing is heard since then.There is no update in the mail tracking system. I have requested the seller to send me a replacement. 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 25 by dai phan

[lockheed2004]

1 hour ago, dai phan said:

PS: The KASL slats has arrived to the US on 12/5/23 and nothing is heard since then.There is no update in the mail tracking system. I have requested the seller to send me a replacement. 

Given the holiday season, I’d be waiting a tad longer to demand a replacement. I have some paint from overseas that’s been sitting 12 miles from my house for 5 days now.

[dai phan]

Hello everyone,

 

Still waiting for the CMK cockpit/gun bay set (designed to go together) to see if that sets offers superior result to the kit's cockpit and Verlinden gun bay. The Legend Production could not be used as I want the left gun bay and they gave me 2 right ones. The Jaguard bay is inferior in detail to the Verlinden (although you get lots more than what it says on the box). The CMK gun bay set cannot be used as it is missing the top panel that you would get only if you buy the cockpit/gun bay combo that I am waiting on. If you use any resin gun bay set with the kit's tub or any AM cockpit set, you have do so much shavings so the left side of tub does not interfere with the resin bay as it protrudes significantly inward. The Eduard's IP is oversized and I just could not get it to look decent after trimming the part. Dai 

 

Edited December 18, 2023 by dai phan

[dai phan]

11 hours ago, lockheed2004 said:

Given the holiday season, I’d be waiting a tad longer to demand a replacement. I have some paint from overseas that’s been sitting 12 miles from my house for 5 days now.

Yes I will wait a bit more. I ordered 2 things from the same vendor in Taiwan 1 day apart. The first order I got over a week ago. The second one nothing is heard. Dai 

[dai phan]

HI all,

 

The Red Roo wing kit has arrived. Very good quality ! Now I have to see if someone can offer me the F-86A conversion set. Dai 

 

 

 

Edited December 21, 2023 by dai phan

[dai phan]

Greetings,

 

The KASL slat sets have arrived. Thinking the first order was lost I went ahead and order a second one. The second one arrived in about 1.5 weeks while tne first one took a month to arrive. Good thing I ordered 2 becaise one slat has a broken actuator. Dai 

 

Edited December 30, 2023 by dai phan

[dai phan]

Happy Holidays,

 

Working on the right slat today. The top wing has the panel line that you can follow and cut. The bottom has none so you must be doing lots of dry fittings and trimmings to get the right cut. I attach the slat mechanism to the top wing then trim the lower cut until thing look right. If you do not trim enough of the lower wing, the actuators will be pointing upwards rather than down. You will need to fill and sand the joint line on the lower wing. Remember there is a step when you install the slat mechanism on the TOP wing. This makes room for the slat to be flushed with the top wing when retracted. Leave 1.5 mm from the joint line where the instruction has you cut. The slat is a tad smaller so if you follow the instruction you will end up with gaps. You see gaps in the photos but because these parts are just taped on. Things will be tighter once I CA in the parts.  Dai 

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2023 by dai phan

[dai phan]

Hello all,

 

Dry fitting everything and no issues are to be expected. Trimming the wings for the slat assembly requires lots of dry fitting. The top wing has the panel lines to be cut at but none on the lower. You need to keep fine tuning the lower wing cut until there is no gaps on the top wing when the slat assembly is inserted. If you over trim the lower, you can easily fill in the gap and there are no details in this area to be lost by sanding. Make sure to leave 1.5 mm from the expected cut line to fine tune. The resin parts you see is Verlinden left gun bay and lower left bay. KASL slat and flap sets. Aires seat and I have not install the sugar scoops yet although I already bought them. Dai

 

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2023 by dai phan

[Cubs2jets]

Anh Dai,

 

" Remember there is a step when you install the slat mechanism on the TOP wing. This makes room for the slat to be flushed with the top wing when retracted."

 

There should NOT be a step where the trailing edge of the slat meets the wing top surface.  At this point the training edge of the slat is only about 0.025".

 

 

 

If there were a step, there would be major aerodynamic disruption across most of the wing at slow speeds (slats open).  Model companies mold their slatted wings this way because they can't mold the trailing edges of the slats thin enough if you wanted slats retracted.

 

C2j

Edited December 31, 2023 by Cubs2jets

[Snowbird3a]

Slats on a Sabre 6 do not deploy as low as the slats on the narrow chord wing;

[dai phan]

1 hour ago, Cubs2jets said:

Ahn Dai,

 

" Remember there is a step when you install the slat mechanism on the TOP wing. This makes room for the slat to be flushed with the top wing when retracted."

 

There should NOT be a step where the trailing edge of the slat meets the wing top surface.  At this point the training edge of the slat is only about 0.025".

 

 

 

If there were a step, there would be major aerodynamic disruption across most of the wing at slow speeds (slats open).  Model companies mold their slatted wings this way because they can't mold the trailing edges of the slats thin enough if you wanted slats retracted.

 

C2j

Thank YOU very much ! That will save me LOTS of headache! I look at the Red Roo narrow chord wing with slats and there is NO step. Thanks again. Dai 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by dai phan

[dai phan]

5 hours ago, Cubs2jets said:

Ahn Dai,

 

" Remember there is a step when you install the slat mechanism on the TOP wing. This makes room for the slat to be flushed with the top wing when retracted."

 

There should NOT be a step where the trailing edge of the slat meets the wing top surface.  At this point the training edge of the slat is only about 0.025".

 

 

 

If there were a step, there would be major aerodynamic disruption across most of the wing at slow speeds (slats open).  Model companies mold their slatted wings this way because they can't mold the trailing edges of the slats thin enough if you wanted slats retracted.

 

C2j

But technically speaking, there should be a step to make room for the thickness of the trailing edge although very thin or else the slat would not be flushed while retracted? On the 1/48 scale this step should not be discernable. Just curious. Dai 

[dai phan]

3 hours ago, Snowbird3a said:

Slats on a Sabre 6 do not deploy as low as the slats on the narrow chord wing;

On the KASL slats, there are indentations inside the slats for the actuators to be attached. On the photo, is that the right amount of extension or should be less? Dai 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by dai phan

[dai phan]

Hi all,

 

I found some photos that show the location of the sugar scoops. Dai

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 5 by dai phan

[Cubs2jets]

7 hours ago, dai phan said:

But technically speaking, there should be a step to make room for the thickness of the trailing edge although very thin or else the slat would not be flushed while retracted? On the 1/48 scale this step should not be discernable. Just curious. Dai 

 

Correct.

 

C2j

[dai phan]

3 hours ago, Cubs2jets said:

 

Correct.

 

C2j

Yes you can see a slight step on this 86A. In 1/48 that would be too difficult to line up the wing and resin to produce a scale step. The Red Roo has smooth joint line between the wing and slat which is not correct. Dai

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by dai phan

[Snowbird3a]

On 12/30/2023 at 8:23 PM, dai phan said:

On the KASL slats, there are indentations inside the slats for the actuators to be attached. On the photo, is that the right amount of extension or should be less? Dai 

 

appears from a different angle , but,  yes that should suffice.

 

Tony

[dai phan]

Happy New Year everyone,

 

Working on the sugar scoops today. Unfortunately the AMS scoops are wrong in size being too short. I had to do some sandings to get the profile correct but you need to extend at least 1 mm of the length. I leave them alone for now. I wish Phase Hangar would do a 3D printed on this one. Dai

 

 

 

Edited January 1 by dai phan

[dai phan]

Hi all,

 

There is a review online of the AMS 1/48 scoops but the picture is from the 1/32 offering. The 1/32 offers closer to dimension than the 1/48 counter parts but still off. Dai 

 

PS: why called "sugar scoops" and not "salt scoops" I wonder? 

 

AMS Resin 48017 1/48 F-86/Canadair Mk.5/6 'Sugar Scoops' First Look (cybermodeler.com)

Edited January 2 by dai phan