Raptor01 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 It has been out a week or so in the USA and no previews or initial impressions yet? Anyone have a opinion? John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoosfoos Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I've noticed the lack of reviews, too. I have a copy and the detail is beautiful, panel lines are very fine and nicely restrained. No sign of the "mad riveter". I can't say anything for fit or accuracy, but from first glance, the kit is very nice looking indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I've noticed the lack of reviews, too. I have a copy and the detail is beautiful, panel lines are very fine and nicely restrained. No sign of the "mad riveter". I can't say anything for fit or accuracy, but from first glance, the kit is very nice looking indeed. I agree completely, looks very nice in the box and the decals are really nice, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) I have one, and it is a very good kit in every respect. It looks excellent to me; but I'm sure it will soon get "Laurentized" and its many, many horrible flaws will come to light one by one ;-). It comes in a surprisingly small box, smaller than the box of Revell's 1/72 Mig-21F-13. It has an open electronics bay, very decent cockpit detail, rubber tires and a small PE fret. The decal sheet is actually half decent. One disappointment that I had was that the kit was publicized as a "Mig-21F-13/J-7"; and some of the sprue shots clearly showed later J-7 parts like the two-part windhshield/canopy and the drag chute housing. Those parts were gated off for this initial boxing. To Trumpeter's credit, neither the box nor anything in the box ever mentions "J-7". I bought my kit with the purpose of designing a decal sheet with interesting J-7 schemes; but this kit will not be suitable for the subjects I had in mind. Trumpeter will definitely release a J-7B at some point. Edited November 20, 2012 by KursadA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 but I'm sure it will soon get "Laurentized" and its many, many horrible flaws will come to light one by one ;-) No it won't. I'm not interested in that kit. Perhaps it will be "gaborized" ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otto Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) I have one on order from my LHS and it has not come in yet. It should look quite nice next to my 21UM. I still have two of these in my stash. I doubt I will ever build them though. Edited November 22, 2012 by Otto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Igor011 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I have two of them. Surprisingly very well detailed kit, exept bang seats that must be changed with resin one. It's not bad idea to change underbelly tanks with those from eduard. All the rest seems to be ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otto Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I have two of them. Surprisingly very well detailed kit, exept bang seats that must be changed with resin one. It's not bad idea to change underbelly tanks with those from eduard. All the rest seems to be ok. Yes I also installed resin seats in mine. I also thinned the wings out a little which was easy by gluing a sheet of sand paper onto a flat surface and sanding the mating surfaces. It only took a couple of minutes each and I got a very nice sharp trailing edge. My kit went together beautifully. I built mine in less than a week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Yes I also installed resin seats in mine. I also thinned the wings out a little which was easy by gluing a sheet of sand paper onto a flat surface and sanding the mating surfaces. It only took a couple of minutes each and I got a very nice sharp trailing edge. My kit went together beautifully. I built mine in less than a week. Igor011 was talking about the Trumpeter F-13 kit not about the HiPM UM kit right ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otto Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Igor011 was talking about the Trumpeter F-13 kit not about the HiPM UM kit right ? When I read "Seats" (plural) not "Seat" (Singular) I just took it for granted that he meant a two-seater. Sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Igor011 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 f-13 from trumpeter ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcon04 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 DreamModel P.E. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Preview with detailed photos, google translate is needed: http://www.moxing.net/2012/1003/3672.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floggerman Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Preview with detailed photos, google translate is needed: http://www.moxing.net/2012/1003/3672.html We already had a discussion here about the kit but unfortunately it got lost during ARC database crash... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I already post that link before database crash, but missed following discusion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 No it won't. I'm not interested in that kit. Perhaps it will be "gaborized" ? Hi There, Sorry I was completely out of reach for the past 3-4 weeks with no interrnet or any other forms of contact. Last week I got the Trump MiG-21 and the GWH MiG-29 is on the doorstep too. So will have to make a choice. Had a look last week at the Trump kit and I am not sure if you going to like what I want to say about it. In short, it is a TOY and not a scale replica. Will write about it a detailed review next week. Will also go out to the real MiG-21F-13 to make some comparisons. So I get back to this next week. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Is it possible that Trumpeter used an F-7 instead of a true MiG-21F-13? Is it possible that this could account for the panel and lower rudder errors? While it may contain some erros, I would hardly call it a toy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I can only speak for myself and express my opinion on a given subject in a review. The Trunp kit has dozens of mistakes on it which show that the designers did not realy (if at all) take a look at the real aircraft. We have seen on the test sprues that they will do the Chinese version of it too. But here we are speaking about the MiG-21 F-13 kit. I can only compare it to the real MiG-21 F-13 of Russian manufacture! And in this respect it has considerable problems. I am sure most will say "we can live with that", it is up to them. For me they are problems and the kit is not a scale replica. I can say that Eduard has nothing to be affraid of with the release of the Trump kit, it is a toy in comparison to what they have produced for the MiG-21MF! I just hope that they will do the F-13 to the same standard and they everyone can make a comparison between the two kits. More next week. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 you know it amazes me how much hate trumpy gets, yet people still purchase their kits and nag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Thompson Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 you know it amazes me how much hate trumpy gets, yet people still purchase their kits and nag. It doesn't amaze me - I've had my own gutfull of disappointment over Trumpeter's obvious lack of concern for accuracy. The people doing the nagging have a right - they've wasted good money on kits, probably of aircraft they know and care about, that don't meet their expectations. I'm with Gabor (and Yury on Britmodeller) on this. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) . In short, it is a TOY and not a scale replica. Gabor i think, this 1/48 MiG-21F looks like toy :P/> : http://www.scalemates.com/products/product.php?id=166554 Edited December 8, 2012 by 172flogger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 you know it amazes me how much hate trumpy gets, yet people still purchase their kits and nag. Is pointing out of problems, mistakes considered nagging???? The original question at the start of this forum was: Anyone has an opinion? I have, and there are lots of mistakes on the kit! It is not nagging. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wingware Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I just painted the cockpit just OK! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floggerman Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) I just painted the cockpit What markings you plan? Should be a very late (and rare) F-13 with emerald cockpit. It would be correct for the GDR plane, but in this case you should replace the bort number, it's wrong shape. Edited December 8, 2012 by Floggerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Thompson Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I just painted the cockpit just OK! More than "just OK" - you did a beautiful job on it, regardless of colour! John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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