florent67 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 (edited) Hi all Nice to be there again (sorry but I didn't improve my english since last time - FYI I'm a frogman as you say). After having built a Mirage IIIC Eduard, a Mirage IVP still in stand by due to missing documentation :D ...but should restart soon :D ...I decided to start a new project...a big project :) (in my mind)... This project is called... MIRAGE 2000D Gloups...at 1/48 scale we have the choice between : - Monogram : representative of prototype - Italeri (ex Esci) : why not - Heller : the best one in my mind so I will use this one. A lot of work will be required to transform the N (Nuclear) version to a D (Diversified) : - spine - cockpit (pilot and navigator) - derive - air intake under the fuselage and to improve several details - tankers - wheels - air intake on the fuselage - trap doors... and several other... > TANKERS Here what it looks like : Not good enough in my mind so I'm going to add a few details on it. As I scheduled to biuld other versions of the Mirage (2000C, 2000-5, 2000B, 2000N) and as several parts are common, I'm going to try to mold them in resin...So I have to think how I will build / details parts. You will have to use a lot of mastic to be sure that the 2 parts are 'in phase'. Traps are not on the good place and other are missing. I decided to cut the tanker in 2 parts. The 'whole' shouldn't be there...more in the axis : and 2 traps are missing on the top of this part...so no other choice than to engrave them and to stick a photoetch part. Edited April 12, 2005 by florent67 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
florent67 Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 Now I want to represent the welded joint. As you can see on pictures of real plane, those lines are quite apparent. For this, I used plastic and applied them where they have to be The 'whole' on the side is filled and an other one is drilled on the center and once again a photoetch is sticked... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
florent67 Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 Same process for the rear of the tanker and what it looks like I started using silicone and resin for the first time so be indulgent...Thx :D :) :D and this is nothing else than the begining.... Bye..Florent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 So will you be selling these....... Could be quite a little business if you were to also include al the bits for the M2000D, too! Just a thought..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pinky coffeeboat Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Good idea - if you are thinking of selling any resin parts you make for the M2000D, then add my name to your list along with Matt Walkers!! The Mirage 2000 family and Mirages in general are unfairly overlooked by the vast majority of manufacturers who continue to pump out yet more "F-something or others"!!! Keep us posted with your progress florent67, I intend to make a few if I get the time! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Bratton Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Nice work! Which Mirage 2000 kit comes with the underwing tanks? Cheers, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pinky coffeeboat Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Forgot to add - nice models ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
florent67 Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 Hi Matt, All the parts are conceived to be casted in resin as you can see... As I said before, several elements are common to the 2000C, 2000-5, 2000B, 2000N and 2000D version...and for sure, I decided to start with all those common elements (excepted the pilot cockpit on which one I'm working) so if one of you are interested, why not... All, let me know if you would be interested by a such conversion kit or 'spare elements' as tyres, ejection seat, spine... and an other picture for today... on the left, the Heller tyre on the middle, the prototype of my new wheel on the right, what it should looks like...I think that I am on the good way... Florent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimosthenis Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Florent you might want to try the RoG Rafale B main wheels. I^ve found that their spokes are almost identical to the M2000's! Very neat job! Are you considering the underwing tank as well for resin casting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
florent67 Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 Hi Yes sir..I confirm that the underwing tanks will be in resin..in 2 parts... For your information, those tanks are used on all the version of the Mirage 2000 so you have the choice...C, B, N, D, -5, -9...help yourself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyraider Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Florent67: There ar as far as I know 3 french guys working on a Mirage 2000D conversion for the Heller N version they want to sell. Why don't you work together and really DO sell that conversion at one time? - Ask Ouragan Models Paris - Ed Grantham here on ARC - Pinsolle Olivier via master195 forum - fabflight (not sure, but he has the tanks and pilots allready!) skyraider Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Hornet Fan Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Hell Yes!!! Please somebody do a conversion set for a twin seater Mirage 2000! I love two bucket fighters! The Airfix 2000B is really hard to find and it isn't totally up to date I guess either. Anyone who is going to make a 2000B/D conversion would have my money pretty quickly! Cheers Jason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
florent67 Posted April 12, 2005 Author Share Posted April 12, 2005 hi Skyraider..my friend of master194.com nice to see you here... I love the idea of working together...'The Force makes Union' Isn't it ? Well, good news...concerning Olivier Pinsolle, I was on phone with him last week end and a few weeks ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimosthenis Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Are you considering the underwing tank as well for resin casting? :) strike that! I'm terribly sorry, but I what I wanted to say was the fueltank under the fuselage, I just wrote about it while looking at the pictures of the underwing tanks at the same time! ;) florent your images are bad for our health! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyraider Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 hi Skyraider..my friend of master194.com nice to see you here... I love the idea of working together...'The Force makes Union' Isn't it ? Well, good news...concerning Olivier Pinsolle, I was on phone with him last week end and a few weeks ago Well, I think Ouragan in Paris has the cockpit already. Do you have the e-mail? skyraider Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 I'd definitely be interested in conversion parts for the Mirage series!!!!!!! Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olivier 40 Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Hello everybody , My mame is Olivier , I am French and new on the forum. I am a modeller and I show you an overhall view of my work. Mirage 2000-5 F kit Heller + scratch 1/48 Mirage F-1C kit Esci + Fonderie-miniature 1/48 F4U-7 Corsair kit Hasegawa + scratch 1/48 I realize also foreign models ....... AV-8B+ Italy kit Hasegawa 1/48 CF-18 Hornet kit Hasegawa 1/48 AV-8 B Harrier desert storm kit Hasegawa 1/48 Sorry for the quality of the pictures At present , I realize with Florent 67 a project of detail on the 2000D conversion and also others versions . :) Here are several square parts : - below drop tank ( 1300l ) for all the Mirage 2000 - pylons for missiles MICA for Mir 2000-5 F and Mir 2000-9 The continuation will arrive , but have patience Thanks to Leander and to Zoth decals who are interested with the " FRENCH WINGS " Olivier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted April 14, 2005 Share Posted April 14, 2005 Formidable!!! I hope you'll consider selling those resin items :) Stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
florent67 Posted April 14, 2005 Author Share Posted April 14, 2005 (edited) all this is with a great pleasure that I advise you that Olivier and myself decided to work together to release in the coming months a complete transkit for Mirage 2000D... I think that several french modelers - and other non french modelers (we hope) were expecting the release of a such kit. Olivier is known in France for having created various master for a french company called Ouragan Model (Detail kit for Jaguar A, transkit for Jaguar E, ordonnance for Jaguar and Mirage, tanks for Mirage III, transkit for Mirage IIIR...). If you bought model kits from FM (Fonderie Miniature), Olivier is at the origin of some of resin parts you can discover when you open the box... The transkit for a Mirage 2000D is one of our project. As I said before, several compoments, parts...are commom to the different versions of the Mirage 2000 so no doubt that we will release separate kits to increase the details of your kits. Wait and see... You will find updates of our work in this post and if you are interested, or if you have any suggestion, idea or comment, feel free to post your question or to send us a mp. Once again, we would like to thank you for your coming comments. Thx to all Olivier and Florent PS : Olivier, could you post other pics of your other masters ? Edited April 14, 2005 by florent67 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pinky coffeeboat Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 florent67, I will be a customer for any conversion kit (transkit) that you will release as I have several Mirage 2000N kits waiting to be converted! :P Please keep us updated with the progress of the conversion kit and contact details also. :blink: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RSV1000R Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) I'm also very excited about any conversions and detail parts for these kits. I am working on an update for the Italeri kit which includes (so far): -Burner Can -Seperate dropped flaperons and replacement actuator fairings. -APU exhaust fairings ontop of the wing root. -Replacement engine bleed air exhuast on spine I'm developing this as I work on my own kit, so I'm not 100% sure of what will be included. I'm also thinking of including a complete new resin nose to save the builder from correcting the panel lines in that area. Other areas I've not reached yet but I can imagine having to correct are the weapon pylons. I have a replacement centerline pylon and RPL 522 tank which I have already cast, however if Olivier & Florent already have one ready I am happy to not sell mine and use theirs. Things are certainly starting to pick up on the Mirage 2000 front! Cheers! Finally, my "french" stash (Need I say more?): Edited April 15, 2005 by eddygrantham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jan Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) Ed, looking at your stash, it is clear that you have not changed your position in "What is the best one in 1/48" discussion :D :D ...have you discussed your respective popsitions with Tony? Any progress on your site? Cheers, Jan P.S. Verrry nice Mirage!!! Edited April 15, 2005 by Jan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RSV1000R Posted April 15, 2005 Share Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) Ed, looking at your stash, it is clear that you have not changed your position in "What is the best one in 1/48" discussion :DÂ :D ...have you discussed your respective popsitions with Tony? Any progress on your site? Cheers, Jan P.S. Verrry nice Mirage!!! Jan, Sorry the stash picture is not indicative of my position as I didn't photograph the 3 Esci/Italeri kits that are in my "main" stash :P I don't keep many Esci kits as they are so easy to obtain here that there is little point. Tony has indeed sent me his article and I'm writing my article around his. Thanks very much Tony if you are reading this and there is an e-mail on the way! Tony's article is excellent and as its all facts there is nothing to disagree with. He hasn't included his own opinions, just exactly what is in each box and how that compares with the real thing which is exactly what I wanted and exactly how I plan to write my part of the article. Therefore the main comparison article will be joint effort. I've been updating the variant table and the weapons charts and I'm just about to upload "in box review articles" for all three kits. The comparison article won't be done for a little while. I keep discoverring little bits of information that I have to add so just like everything "the more you understand, the more you realise you don't understand". I'm juggling writing all this with working on my kit and the resin parts for it while also travelling down to London every wekk for Job interviews, hence the slow progress, but here it is so far: http://edsaircraft.co.uk/Models/Articles-M...al/1/index.html Cheers, Ed Edited April 15, 2005 by eddygrantham Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 (edited) Hello everybody ,My mame is Olivier , I am French and new on the forum. I am a modeller and I show you an overhall view of my work. Olivier Welcome ami francais, this is the ARC neighborhood! i am glad to see a new french birds builder!!!!!! Please tell me how did u add the small white points over your Mirage 2000. your Mirage 2000-5 rules!!!!!!! Greetings from Peru Edited April 17, 2005 by fulcrum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
florent67 Posted April 18, 2005 Author Share Posted April 18, 2005 Hi everybody... 2 good news... > the master of the pilot 'front panel' is on the way to be finished so I should be able to post the first picture this week... I will do my best to to cast it in resin and to show you picture of it...I cross my finger to be on time... > in addition to detailled spare part for Mirage 2000D (and other variants) we decided to released in the coming months different ordnance / armement kits to put under your 2000D wings - updated PDLCT (with new air intake) with 2 x GBU12 - detailed Atlis Pod with AS30 - BAP 100 & BAP 120 - updated PDLCT (with new air intake) with french 1000lbs bomb - updated PDLCT (with new air intake) with detailled Apache / Scalp missile We are opened to any idea so please, feel free to send us (per mp) your suggestion. Thanks to all Olivier & Florent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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