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  1. Hey folks, yeah, yeah, yeah, still these boring gutters, I can not change it, sorry. In the case of the dull gluing of the gutters, a smooth seating and an exact fixing of the position is very important, so that nothing can shift. Then the seam was gently painted with Gator's Grip and let it to dry. And as one can see, the gluing also holds this time. Tomorrow I will carefully smooth the seam. And so once again back to the Gutter 1 on the Side 2, where the two parts also had to be glued bluntly. Here, at first, the fitting test of the two parts, which I made this time even more securely aligned and stabilized before gluing. And this gluing was also successful, and can be smoothed tomorrow.
  2. Hello everybody, my Grandson Max had a lot of fun with this kit, as one can see, and he did not need any help, whereupon his Grandpa is very proud.
  3. Hello everybody, before the 14 supports (with lower strip) could be glued to the two gutters, they had to be scratch-built, of course, with full concentration, a calm hand and good eyes. And already the gluing of the sickles on the tiny strips was again the expected tricky matter as with the gutters on the Side 2. Since these are again the same procedures and handgrips, I will only briefly illustrate them by picture. With a few supports as a reserve, the gluing of the supports onto the gutter continued. After the bottom of the gutter was glued into the short piece, the outer support without strip was glued. This time I did not glue the supports on the long gutter individually, but at the same time three at one go clamped between cutter edges. Afterwards, the contact points on the gutter were dabbed with CA and then the core strip with the gutter were lowered to the supports and thus glued. Subsequently the remaining five supports were glued. Since the last support had not glued completely, it was glued once more. Next, the short initial gutter is glued to the long Gutter 1, this time with Gator's Grip. Later, the Gutter 2 will follow.
  4. Hello everyone, and now to the still remaining Gutter 2 on the Side 4. While the rounding of the long gutter strip with the help of the half-pipe and core wires up to Ø 4 mm is relatively easy, it is known to become more tricky below this level. This is why I have clamped the brass core wire (Ø 2 mm) this time over the rounded gutter strip on the table and pressed the edges from both sides by sliding along with a rounded magnet, because unsightly kinks can be prevented this way. This is followed by the last rounding step with the core wire Ø 1.5 mm. Any slight longitudinal distortions of the gutter can be compensated on the narrow rounded plastic core strip, so that Gutter 2 is finally finished too. As the crowning end of the gutter chapter, next the gluing of the Gutter Supports follows, but this time also with the Gator's Grip.
  5. Hi Pete, yep, Gator's Grip is really fabulous, and here is still an encore. It was even possible to smooth the glue contact with a sanding stick, and the 0.1 mm contact seam was resistent and is not broken apart, which would have happened by using CA. Strange, but true! As a small customer service for curious guys and prospective customers, here one can go to the witch master Kenny Loup from Sulphur (Louisiana), from whom I bought my glue a few years ago. Source: gatorsmask.com
  6. Hello everybody, and today finally to the gutters on the Side 4, which basically have the same structure as the gutters on Side 2. The only difference is that there is no console in the Bay 17 as on the Side 2, and therefore there is also no recess as shown on this image on the MLP-2 during STS-8. Source: NASA As a result, there are only two gutters on Side 4, which can be seen in this image a bit better. For dimensioning it is only important to determine the distances in the recess in the Bay 10, Source: apollosaturn.com (John Duncan) in which the box for the Fire Hose Reel was installed earlier. The two gutter ends at the beginning and at the end of the side have the same outward lowering structure, as can be seen in this image, Source: apollosaturn.com (John Duncan) which again have to be glued with blunt ends, but this time immediately with Gator's Grip. For the cutting of the aluminium sheet metal strips (0.1 mm) was used a small montage sketch as usual. Then, again, the rounding of the gutters followed in the usual way, here first the short initial piece of Gutter 1 in Bay 1, which was relatively simple, and then the long piece, which was already somewhat more tricky. As far as for today.
  7. Hello everybody, since I can order Gator's Grip also in Germany, I have tested both varieties in comparison, because I was interested in the difference. While the Original Blend is rather pasty and resembles conventional wood glue, the Thin Blend is not fluid, but noticeably thinner. And since the Gator does not bite immediately like CA, I had to hold the two plastic rods first. As can be seen after a dry time of 5 minutes the Thin Blend actually dries faster, and the milky white color already begins to become transparent. After 10 minutes, both samples are standing already by itself. After 15 minutes, the Thin Blend should be almost cured. After 20 minutes: After 25 minutes: After 60 minutes the original glue was still not quite transparent. Then came the nail test, which both samples have survived. However, the force for upstanding reached only to half, for whatever reason. However, the connection is still so stable that the samples can be moved and erected arbitrarily without having to break. This allows everybody to decide for himself which blend is more advantageous and to order accordingly. I will probably stay with the Thin Blend because of the faster curing.
  8. Hello everybody, okay, admitted, this delicate matter is really not very easy, because the gluing surfaces (cannot to be said actually) or better the gluing edges (0.1 mm) are much too narrow. I had previously only planned its application for the gluing of the various PE parts at the FSS/RSS and therefore it falled a bit into oblivion. Besides the water solubility a further advantage is the amazing elasticity of Gator's Grip in the cured state. While a contact that is glued with Seku can break away quickly, as with one gutter support, the Gator's Grip contact itself can withstand a bending by 90° and then re-erect itself, also known as Memory effect, what I initially did not wanted to believe. And this variant I have tried today. Here one can see the put together gutter dummies, which I have just before lightly painted inside and outside with the Gator's Grip, as well as a similarly attached support. After a drying time of about 10 minutes it looked like this. The gutters were actually tightly connected and held out a slight bend without breaking apart. In addition, I also have glued an old PE ladder as well as a piece of handrail upright onto a plastic pad and let dry. And then followed the brutal nail test for the ladder by loading of a tweezer, what overwhelmed it. And whether one believes it or not, after taking the tweezers away, the miraculous resurrection of the ladder began, here after half of the recovery from this strain, and then almost to the starting point. And the handrail finally had to bend itsef under my cent coin, but had surprisingly the same abilities and stood up again little by little, although these are only point contacts!!! Finally here once again the state of the probands after this stress test, which impressively proves their total recovery. What more do you want? As a conclusion, I can say rightly that the test reports have not promised too much, and that Gator's Grip is really a hellish stuff that convinced me and will be helpful to me when gluing the next gutters on the Side 4, as certainly also in the gluing of the gutters at the MLP deck.
  9. Hi Mike, a significant advantage of Gator's Grip is that it is water-soluble and does not harden as quickly as CA. The longer drying time allows repositioning or correction of the parts, which is a real plus compared with CA. After about 10 minutes, the initially milky white color changes into transparent. BTW, I could have thought about earlier and could use it for gluing of the gutters. According to user reports, it should also be suitable for the gluing of plastic on metal, which I will try too, maybe I can use it for an easier gluing of the supports onto the gutters of Side 4.
  10. Thanks Mike, I'll try this stuff tomorrow with some dummy gutters. What did you use it for?
  11. Thanks Pete for trying to help me, one possibility would be to glue both airbrushed gutters end to end at the MLP deck and then to overpaint the connecting edge once more with the brush by hand. Maybe I could also use the special glue for photo etch parts, Gator's Grip-Thin Blend for gluing instead of CA, whose application is easier. I have also already thought about using of a foil or tape, maybe simple masking tape (0.05 mm) on the rear half of the gutter could be suitable as a little support, which one can not see from the front.
  12. Hello everyone, although these tricky gutters also do not necessarily lead me to cheers, it does not use anything, and therefore the work must go on. And now to the Gutter 1, which is supported by eight supports with a flange and by one support without flange at the beginning of the Side 2. Source: apollosaturn.com (John Duncan) In contrast to the side end (Bay 18) the gutter, flattened outwards above the Bay 1, is connected to the other gutter part directly at the outlet of the downspout in front of the front girder, which is why there is no support there. Therefore, both gutter parts must be glued directly dull one to another at this point, which should not become quite easy as the edges will probably provide little sufficient area due to the very thin aluminum plate (0.1 mm). Here one can see both gutter parts lying on a narrow core strip, so far so good. At first, the bottom of the gutter was glued at the back end. Subsequently, the glueing of the supports took place according to the tried and tested clamping technique, almost as before. Since the distances between the girders in the front part of the side is slightly less than in the rear part, the steel ruler did not fit between them in the following Bays, which is why I had to redispose. But with narrow cutter knives as a stop, the problem was solved quickly, it went on fast, and up to the 7th support everything looked well. But during constant handling with this unwieldy structure I must have somehow nudged to the third support, whereby its lower flange was suddenly kinked off. After the support had been repaired, he could be glued again and closed the gap. Finally, the last support between the Bay 2/3 followed, whereby this gutter part was completely supported. But now the more difficult part of the exercise was next to do, namely, the dull gluing of both gutter parts, which has given me some headache. For this I firstly came up with this stable magnet fixing of the gutter over a somewhat wider core strip, which was unfortunately thought too short. In this arrangement, the top edge of the front gutter part would run outwardly obliquely, what should not be, but rather it must be exactly the other way round. In contrast, the upper edge of the gutter is a continuous line, while the lower edge slightly rises towards the outside. Therefore I have glued the external support without flange, which I first wanted to lay down from above (here only temporary done), what I but then differently have done, because one this tiny part can hardly hold still in the tweezers, let alone put exactly straight to the point. That is why I stapled the support on a conversely glued tape strip and then carefully lowered the gutter end, dabbed with tiny CA, which also worked well. And now again to the dull gluing of the two gutter parts flat above two half-round profiles (1.5 mm) for better guidance. In order to achieve a possible flush connection of the two roundings, I then have glued a small supporting profile (0.5x1.5 mm rectangular profile + half-round profile), and inserted it into the longer gutter part together with a Teflon strip as CA protection. Afterwards, I dabbed the gutter end on the rounding with CA and layed the part over the support profile and lightly pressed, in the hope that both parts would somehow glue together. Unfortunately, this hope has not been fulfilled, because after removing the supporting profile from the gutter suddenly two parts were laying in front of me again. So I was rather frustrated and I have to think about a different solution, which is why good ideas are required. So please feel free, but rather come up with it.
  13. PHOTOBUCKET? What do you all use?

    Hi guys, I fully agree with you that you are rightly frustrated. I use ImageShack and pay $37,99 a year, what I would recommend to you all.
  14. Hello everyone, as already announced, the short Gutter 3 at the end of Side 2 came next with only two supports as one can see in this image. Source: Library of Congress Since I had already shaped the gutter some time ago, now only the gutter soils with CA had to be glued in, which again happened on Teflon foil, and relatively quickly was done. Afterwards, the support (with flange) was clamped in the known and proven manner between the steel rulers, and above it the gutter was glued as usual. The assembly was then turned upside down and the rear support (without flange) glued. And so the Gutter 3 was already finished, and fits well to the Gutter 2. Now still missing the front Gutter 1, which is running from the Bay 9 up to the Bay 1 at the beginning of Side 2.
  15. Hello everybody, after the successful glueing of the first support today I have glued the remaining five Supports at the Gutter 2. In order to get with the steel rulers into the interstices between the supports, however, I had to clamp them vertically, otherwise it was the same procedure as before. For clamping the tiny supports between the rulers one needs, however, patience and a quiet hand, since the supports can quickly tip over. Then CA was applied again and the gutter with the core strip lowered to the second support and glued thereby. And so it went on until the fifth and penultimate support on this gutter. Then came the last support, which lines up precisely with the gutter end at the beginning of the Bay 11, as one can see in this image. Source: apollosaturn.com (John Duncan) And after this support was glued, the Gutter 2 was finally finished. Next, the short Gutter 3 follows at the end of the Side 2, which has only two supports, and thereafter finally the Gutter 1 at the front of the side with its nine supports.
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