jester292 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Which weapons were cleared for the F-111E wing pylons? The 1:48 Academy kit only comes with dumb bombs and what looks like a multiple ejector rack. Am I stuck with that? Any timeframe will do; I just want to know if I can substitute it. Thanks! Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Aaron, here is one resource: http://www.f-111.net/models/weaponsloads/index.htm Scroll down about half-way on the page for the D/E/F models. HTH, Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Thank you sir! Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 When i was stationed at at CFB Baden in then West Germany, we had a War Task Assignment to load other NATO a/c and i got to load the F-104G and the F-111 for which we put a total of 20 Mk-82SE on them. 6 on each BRU on both sides and slant 4 on the i/b pylon BRUs. Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Just hang a whole lotta bombs and you're good to go, or some really big Paveway GBU's :D B) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mungo1974 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Just hang a whole lotta bombs and you're good to go, or some really big Paveway GBU's :D/> B)/> F-111E's didn't use Paveway GBU's.....LDGP bombs and CBU were most common... Although i do have some Gulf War F-111E pics taken at Incirlik,Turkey carrying live 500lb GBU-12's...plan was to have the 3TFW Pavetack equipped F-4E's lase the target for them...but the ceasefire was declared before any sorties were flown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 F-111.net makes a good start on what could have been carried but its by no means an exhaustive list, it is however a good list going on what is most likely to be carried at that time. The F-111E was tested to carry almost the entire USAF inventory of stores, its weapons computer also carried delivery profiles for them even though it never carried half of what it knew how to drop. All of the Paveway I, II, III smart bombs were cleared, a lot of the electro optical bombs too (GBU-8, GBU-15 etc) but it couldnt guide them. If you are going with 078 from the kit then you are not limited by the kit weapons, from memory it has Mk82 LDGP, 600gal tanks (which are best put into the spares box as they are way to small) and Sidewinders. Forget the sidewinders, the only one I know that carried them on a regular basis was the D. The Mk82 LDGP (slant 4 or 6) option was common place on the E model, AIR and SnakeEye were also much used, which is a given considering the delivery profile the E prefered. Its hard to know what to say in answer to your question as on the one hand it had extensive weapons testing but on the other it saw only limited actual use in a limited theatre of operations, so if youre wanting to keep it real then you are limited but if you are not and just want to model what was possible then the sky is the limit on the E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Keep in mind that for most of it's service in Europe, the F-111E had one primary mission - Nuclear Strike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Thanks for your replies everyone. I'll just find some better looking slicks than what comes in the kit. I'm thinking either slant 4 or full BRUs. Thanks! Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Thanks for your replies everyone. I'll just find some better looking slicks than what comes in the kit. I'm thinking either slant 4 or full BRUs. Thanks! Aaron Good luck with your kit. The E-model was always my favorite, not sure why. Probably because the F seemed to get all the publicity. Put up some pics once your build is underway! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Thanks for your replies everyone. I'll just find some better looking slicks than what comes in the kit. I'm thinking either slant 4 or full BRUs. Thanks! Aaron The kit weapons are not very inspiring. 8, 12 or 24 is possible on an E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 I agree. 24 would be menacing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mungo1974 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Pick up some OzMods/Scaledown Mk82/BSU-49(AIRS) off Ebay...plus you'll get correct F-111 BRU's as the kit one are woefully inaccurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 I've been searching the bay half-heartedly, I'll have to take a closer look. Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 1459687152[/url]' post='2792110']Good luck with your kit. The E-model was always my favorite, not sure why. Probably because the F seemed to get all the publicity. Put up some pics once your build is underway! I'll try! Posting pics isn't always easy, but I do like sharing. Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mungo1974 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 I've been searching the bay half-heartedly, I'll have to take a closer look. Aaron Ebay link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Just hang a whole lotta bombs and you're good to go, or some really big Paveway GBU's :D/>/> B)/>/> :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F16CrewChief Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I was at a Red Flag in January 1988 and saw at least two Heyford F-111Es carrying Captive AIM-9Ps: http://f16crewchief.deviantart.com/art/Upper-Heyford-F-111E-No-1-589365945 and http://f16crewchief.deviantart.com/art/F-111E-149984742 F-111.net makes a good start on what could have been carried but its by no means an exhaustive list, it is however a good list going on what is most likely to be carried at that time. The F-111E was tested to carry almost the entire USAF inventory of stores, its weapons computer also carried delivery profiles for them even though it never carried half of what it knew how to drop. All of the Paveway I, II, III smart bombs were cleared, a lot of the electro optical bombs too (GBU-8, GBU-15 etc) but it couldnt guide them. If you are going with 078 from the kit then you are not limited by the kit weapons, from memory it has Mk82 LDGP, 600gal tanks (which are best put into the spares box as they are way to small) and Sidewinders. Forget the sidewinders, the only one I know that carried them on a regular basis was the D. The Mk82 LDGP (slant 4 or 6) option was common place on the E model, AIR and SnakeEye were also much used, which is a given considering the delivery profile the E prefered. Its hard to know what to say in answer to your question as on the one hand it had extensive weapons testing but on the other it saw only limited actual use in a limited theatre of operations, so if youre wanting to keep it real then you are limited but if you are not and just want to model what was possible then the sky is the limit on the E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I was at a Red Flag in January 1988 and saw at least two Heyford F-111Es carrying Captive AIM-9Ps: http://f16crewchief....-No-1-589365945 and http://f16crewchief....-111E-149984742 Sorry I should have made what I said more clear. An AIM-9P on station 3a/6a was common place, however an AIM-9L/M parent mounted to station 3/6 was rather less common. 3a/6a mounting was limited by the parent mounted stores, a GBU-15 of any kind precluded the use of 3a/6a while a GBU-12 allowed it, as did a fuel tank. When I get more time Ill come up with a list of allowed stores options if you guys are interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Put a couple of "crowd pleasers" on it. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Yes I'd like to know my options for building/arming an E. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Update - Not your most reliable source for refs ...but you may get a nudge in the direction you'd like to take Aardvark Authorized Munitions scroll down to armament ;) Edited April 6, 2016 by #1 Greywolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 3a/6a mounting was limited by the parent mounted stores, a GBU-15 of any kind precluded the use of 3a/6a while a GBU-12 allowed it, as did a fuel tank. The problem on 3A/6A for AIM-9L/M missiles was a fit issue. IIRC there was only about 1/8" clearance between the bottom of the aircraft wing and the top of the wing of the 2nd generation Sidewinders (D/G/H/L/M/R/S) that had a greater wingspan than the 1st generation missiles (A-B-E-J-N-P). Whatever the number was, it wasn't enough, so the only way the F-111 could carry a 2nd generation AIM-9 was by parent-mounting the launcher to the bottom of the (usually) inboard stations 4/5 (this wasn't done during Desert Storm). The RAAF experimented with an extended/angled pylon to overcome this limitation, but I think it caused a vibration problem and wasn't adopted. Not positive about that and would be happily corrected by someone from Oz who knows more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 F-111.net makes a good start on what could have been carried but its by no means an exhaustive list, it is however a good list going on what is most likely to be carried at that time. The F-111E was tested to carry almost the entire USAF inventory of stores, its weapons computer also carried delivery profiles for them even though it never carried half of what it knew how to drop. All of the Paveway I, II, III smart bombs were cleared, a lot of the electro optical bombs too (GBU-8, GBU-15 etc) but it couldnt guide them. If you are going with 078 from the kit then you are not limited by the kit weapons, from memory it has Mk82 LDGP, 600gal tanks (which are best put into the spares box as they are way to small) and Sidewinders. Forget the sidewinders, the only one I know that carried them on a regular basis was the D. The Mk82 LDGP (slant 4 or 6) option was common place on the E model, AIR and SnakeEye were also much used, which is a given considering the delivery profile the E prefered. Its hard to know what to say in answer to your question as on the one hand it had extensive weapons testing but on the other it saw only limited actual use in a limited theatre of operations, so if youre wanting to keep it real then you are limited but if you are not and just want to model what was possible then the sky is the limit on the E Even though they were rarely (if ever really) used operational, I'd *love* to do a full load of durandals on the E model I'm building... sadly Durandals in 1/48 are extremely hard to come by, especially in large numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 I saw a pic of an F-111E with 12 BLU-109s, and I thought the same thing. That would be awesome to display. But I wouldn't even know where to get them or buy them. Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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