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If you go into detail on this then you'll need to dig into the references: all wheel wells were white, as were the speed brake wells. The cockpit was also mainly white and this aircraft carried a second seat for a time too.

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4 hours ago, Sabrejet said:

If you go into detail on this then you'll need to dig into the references: all wheel wells were white, as were the speed brake wells. The cockpit was also mainly white and this aircraft carried a second seat for a time too.

I am not that OCD but I want to make sure the wing is correct. Dai 

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On 12/25/2024 at 8:00 AM, ya-gabor said:

As mentioned before the radioactive „glowing” paint used for instrument dials with time (decades) changes to distinct yellowish colour. While initially they were perfectly white. So for a period cockpit white dials would be needed.

Here is a close up of the Edu painted instrument panel for the Clear Prop! F-86A kit in 48 th scale. It has yellow dials and that strange bulging drop of gloss over the instruments.

In February next year another photoetch will be released, this time for the AirBrick Sabre. The instrument panel colours were changed to white, just as the firing handle to yellow. Have to add that on very few period images there are red firing handles can be seen just as yellow.

 

Best wishes for Xmas to everyone around the worlds! And in hope for a peaceful new year, or should I say peace in new year?

 

Best regards

Gabor

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Now that I see the Eduard product, it is too yellow.

 

Although I don’t agree it should be perfectly white, we used to repaint instruments with radium and it wasn't white when new. But it certainly wasn’t as yellow as Eduard depicts it as.

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On 1/9/2025 at 3:09 PM, Sabrejet said:

If you go into detail on this then you'll need to dig into the references: all wheel wells were white, as were the speed brake wells. The cockpit was also mainly white and this aircraft carried a second seat for a time too.

Do you have a link for the references? Thanks Dai 

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On 1/9/2025 at 12:45 PM, dai phan said:

Tamiya places seam lines on the panel lines and you cannot tell which is which? 

 

Oh you can definitely tell which is which, unless remedial action is taken.

 

Jon

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10 hours ago, Snowbird3a said:

this book has a lot of pics of Ben Hall's restoration and tons of photos of when the aircraft was in the UK as G-SABR

 

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Thank you so much and I just ordered the book. There is one person selling this book for 2K USD on EB ! Dai 

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Hello all,

 

Looking into the Ben Hall’s restoration project of the 86A revealed the white scheme one is now painted in USAF Korean scheme and in flying condition. There are many photos of this bird on the Net. As Duncan stated, it has narrow chord with slats shut and wing fences added. You can tell it is the narrow chord variant by looking at the wing’s root. The root does NOT overlap the ammo door. Without this hint it is very difficult to know which is which. 6 inches at the root for the 6-3 wing wouls be 3.175 mm in 48th scale and this small amount difference is hard to detect in 48 and harder in 72. I will let Draw Decal know to correct this information on their site as they listed this restored bird with wider chord. Dai

 

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3 hours ago, dai phan said:

...  it has narrow chord with flaps shut and wing fences added. 

 

Nice project, dai! Will be interesting to follow.

 

Gene K

P.S. I think you meant "slats", not "flaps".

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36 minutes ago, GeneK said:

 

Nice project, dai! Will be interesting to follow.

 

Gene K

P.S. I think you meant "slats", not "flaps".

Yes ! My apologies Your Highness… Correction done! Dai 

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On 1/9/2025 at 9:04 PM, Scooby said:


Now that I see the Eduard product, it is too yellow.

 

Although I don’t agree it should be perfectly white, we used to repaint instruments with radium and it wasn't white when new. But it certainly wasn’t as yellow as Eduard depicts it as.

I wondered why on CP decals the instruments are yellow and now I know. Dai 

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11 hours ago, dai phan said:

Hello all,

 

Looking into the Ben Hall’s restoration project of the 86A revealed the white scheme one is now painted in USAF Korean scheme and in flying condition. There are many photos of this bird on the Net. As Duncan stated, it has narrow chord with slats shut and wing fences added. You can tell it is the narrow chord variant by looking at the wing’s root. The root does NOT overlap the ammo door. Without this hint it is very difficult to know which is which. 6 inches at the root for the 6-3 wing wouls be 3.175 mm in 48th scale and this small amount difference is hard to detect in 48 and harder in 72. I will let Draw Decal know to correct this information on their site as they listed this restored bird with wider chord. Dai

 


 

 

I already told Draw Decal about the wing mistake, he probably will do nowt about it

 

Tony

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1 hour ago, Snowbird3a said:

I already told Draw Decal about the wing mistake, he probably will do nowt about it

 

Tony

I am so lucky Duncan points out the fact it has narrow chord rather than what Draw said. Imagine I grafted the 6-3 wings only to find out it was a total waste !!! Upon research I discover the hint of the 6-3 wing was the wing root overlaps the ammo door. That is why when the door was opened, the tip of the wing root was removed. Thank you again Curtis! Dai 

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On 1/8/2025 at 7:12 PM, BWDenver said:

 

I reviewed the threads offered and it left a few questions with the wing on N89FS and N86FS.  Would both of these have the 6-3 hard wing as seen in the photos? 

 

I don’t see any evidence of slats drooping.   Is N86FS an Ex RCAF bird or German???

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Yes, it's ex RCAF with a 6-3 hard wing.  Here's more information.

 

https://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=17006

 

 

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Hi all,

 

I have used this Eduard FE 1488 for my second 86 and I found out the side console PE are oversized in width (parts 9,10,24) making the fit of the seat impossible. I had to trim the sides of the seat to make it fit. Sanding or cutting the PE parts will not work as you will delaminate the printing. I would avoid this set and use Kelik, Quinta or Eduard Space as you can trim the sides if needed. Dai 

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Hello all

 

I received my CP Sabre from them a good week ago. I started the build right away. So far a very mixed bag of fleas. Very fine detail combined with sometimes terrible fit issues and a part break down that makes you wonder which devil did ride the designer. Now..by reading here, I learned that they use low presure molding but is this really the reson for parts demarcation running wildly throuh the panels? The front and rear fuselage buttoms are the worst! Now...I got the basic bird together but I will have to do a lot of re-scribing and riveting. I wonder if the molds start wearing out already, the fit reminded my a lot on a Revell Tomcat that I got recently for fee, a very late release made from a totally worn out 40+ years old Monogram mold and removed from the injection machine too early. It requiers pysical strengh and a lot of CA to get the parts together.

 

thanks

Uwe

 

PS: The front wheel well is wrong just like on almost any other kit...only Acydemy got it sort of right! CP on the left...

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On 9/30/2024 at 11:06 PM, BWDenver said:

Say it isn't so!

 

I remember a modeler in the DC IPMS chapter that would always complain about the "$40" 1/48 Hasegawa kit.  He only built 1/72 scale.  But when you look at inflation that was the $3 kit of the 60's.  Wonder what he would have thought of the IMHO kits....

 

Back a little bit on topic, I'm digging through a USAF doc on ejection seats from the late mid 50's and it mentioned that the F-86 had 4 different seats, assuming all flavors F-86.

 

I can account for two, maybe three if you consider mechanical vs Gas fired.  The seat in the 86A, E & F.  Then the 86d, K & L, which sort of was the same seat in the H..

 

Your thoughts????

 

Bryan

 

 

...plus the two MB seats, the Mk.5 like in the German birds and even Mk.10s in Sabres from Honduras...

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