richter111 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) ARRGH! What a way to start a post! I have the main pieces assembled, to wit the fuselage, with the wheel bays and cockpit in place. I tried a new method for me, using tenax to weld the seams together bit by bit, with reinfircing shots of superglue alone key points for extra strength. I can tell now I better buy stock in a putty company. Bad joints, serious warpage, undersize engines, (about 1/4 inch alone in length) I wonder how in the world they missed so much on that particular part. The kit is really soft on detail, I have been adding in missing bits here and there, I added some photo etch brass screens at the apu exhausts, things like that. I'll post pics when I can Ric Edited April 5, 2008 by richter111 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CreepyGuy Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 ARRGH!What a way to start a post! I have the main pieces assembled, to wit the fuselage, with the wheel bays and cockpit in place. I tried a new method for me, using tenax to weld the seams together bit by bit, with reinfircing shots of superglue alone key points for extra strength. I can tell now I better buy stock in a putty company. Bad joints, serious warpage, undersize engines, (about 1/4 inch alone in length) I wonder how in the world they missed so much on that particular part. The kit is really soft on detail, I have been adding in missing bits here and there, I added some photo etch brass screens at the apu exhausts, things like that. I'll post pics when I can Ric I have the "G" models at home and I am waiting for the ambition to build it....Good luck and post pics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted March 18, 2008 Author Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) I have two of the G models myself, a D model and the conversion set for the F engines is on the way from dragon productions. Ric first three pictures link http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg14/r_...up%20H%20model/ You can't really tell it from the last one, but the starbord side is lined up perfectly, the port side is gapped and wonked beyond belief Edited March 18, 2008 by richter111 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CreepyGuy Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I have two of the G models myself, a D model and the conversion set for the F engines is on the way from dragon productions.Ric I have a D model waiting to be built as an F with the Dragon conversion as well. I have the decals from Cutting Edge to make "Mekong Express" My son also has a D built and an H in the pile. It must be a Wisconsin thing..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted March 18, 2008 Author Share Posted March 18, 2008 What part of Wisconsin?? I am in Superior myself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CreepyGuy Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What part of Wisconsin??I am in Superior myself Cedarburg.....aka north of Milwaukee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted March 18, 2008 Author Share Posted March 18, 2008 Anyone else doing a b-52 (any version ) right now?? Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
53 Marine Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I am finishing up a D model atm... I added all of the vents, the fuselage stiffener and put in a replacement vacuform canopy so that the top windows are actually clear.... right now I am working on the skin warping - been playing around with a few techniques - so far so good. Harold Semper Fi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave T Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I have the 'H' but have never seen the 'G' version. Does anyone have both and would care to comment on (show ?) the sprue differences or commonality between the two please ? . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fiddler Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) Hi, I'm in an 'On and Off' project involving a Monogram B-52D converting it to a late ALCM carrying G... And with Meteor announcing the conversion parts, I thought cool! Then I saw the price and decided I had to plan it somewhere in my budget and wait a while before I could buy it. Then they stopped accepting orders and the rest is known by most of us... Back to the start again Nose cone, tail extention and such things were underway... only not that easy and demand quite a large amount of time... Swapped some weaponry and others for a pair of ALCM launchers and G tiptanks and was drawing the wingflap detail on the computer... all very sloooowly Greetings Edited March 18, 2008 by Fiddler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glynn Jacobs Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I also was waiting to build up my dollars before I bought the C.E. set for the late H model but was caught in the shutdown. I see that airwves are doing the basic set again but I don't want to spring the Euros for just the nose section with the EVS blisters! I'm doing an On and Off again project too with the Monogram kit and am trying to make it into a late B-52H with Golden Dragon parts for the engines, interior, etc. I wish I hadn't sold my old D.B. set because I sure would like to be able to have that nose section with the EVSs again! I have parts from the old AMT kit but they are pretty much used for the spoilers on top of the wings and maybe the wheel wells. If anybody needs something, I also have some extra Monogram stuff too. Cheers, WARDOG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Meredith Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I built an AMT 'H' years ago, and did a terrible job but did sell it for £10! It was a slog to put it together, despite how impressive it looked built up (notwithstanding my shoddy work). I always wanted the Desert Storm G model, and I do have one now (Italeri rebox) but was disappointed that its the cruise missile carrier; althought the birds from the 2nd BW played a significant part with their marathon CALCM runs, it was the conventionally armed BUFF's which were more synonymous to me, and so a kit with iron bombs would have been more welcome with me, though I'm sure something could be put together with the pylons from the Monogram kit...though I am surprised none of the aftermarket firms have stepped in with a set to cover this; like my desire to model a B-52H from one of the RAF bombing compos, I'd like to model the G as one of the Fairford birds from the 1991 war, just 'cos they stayed this side of the pond. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave T Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I have parts from the old AMT kit but they are pretty much used for the spoilers on top of the wings and maybe the wheel wells. If anybody needs something, I also have some extra Monogram stuff too. Glynn, You have mail.. !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted March 18, 2008 Author Share Posted March 18, 2008 I have the chrome dome G model, and the modern H model The G kit is the B-52 BEFORE the Evs blisters, and has the hound dog missles, plus of course the G model .50 cal guns The H kit is the modern current look, minus all the antenna, with the Vulcan cannon in the tail. Also included are a bunch of cruise missiles. Otherwise, the wings and such are identical. I think the desert storm version has the iron bombs in both versions, and the G model would be identical to the H model minus the gun arrangement. My H model will have the tail guns removed (Bobbetted as they call it) with all the current antenna and such on the fuse... Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 AMT made an "early" and a "late" G model. You apparently have the early G. The late version has the EVS turrets under the nose, the Phase VI tail extension and ALCMs for under the wing. The G still has the J-57 engines with the external generator on #s 1, 3, 5 & 7 engines versus the TF-33 turbo fans of the H. That and the tail guns are the two major external differences. I have an early G about half done that I want to finish in the Nuclear Alert configuration. I am still debating whether to do a NMF upper finish over white or slightly later with the 3 color camo over white. I haven't done any work on it for about 2 years. Darwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 IIRC, the late G and the H kits both only had ALCM armament, not iron bombs. The Hound Dogs were only in the early G kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchf4 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Is the Italeri early -G kit still in production? Got the bug to build a NMF SAC bird after watching Dr Strangelove on the Continental flight back from Houston last week. Would love a tall-tail -F if Monogram started reissuing them though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CreepyGuy Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I am finishing up a D model atm... I added all of the vents, the fuselage stiffener and put in a replacement vacuform canopy so that the top windows are actually clear.... right now I am working on the skin warping - been playing around with a few techniques - so far so good.Harold Semper Fi Let me know how you did that or post some pics.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Is the Italeri early -G kit still in production? Got the bug to build a NMF SAC bird after watching Dr Strangelove on the Continental flight back from Houston last week. Would love a tall-tail -F if Monogram started reissuing them though! The Italeri G is the "late" version. The AMT early G is still available on evil bay. The various iterations of the Monogram, now Revell, BUFF are all D models. The same kit, just different box art. To make it an F, you would have to replace the engine pods with those from a G and use an F serial number. Even those are slightly different, but close enough that it would take a myopic rivet counter to pick out the difference. The Revell of Germany BUFF is the same as the old Monogram D model. Darwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 You cant use G model engines on a D to make it an F, the F had engines common only to the F... To make an F from the monogram kit you will need the decals and the Golden Dragon engines, and possiblily some hound dogs also from GD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
53 Marine Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Let me know how you did that or post some pics.... NP - I will try taking some pics of it tomorrow (after I dust it off a bit) I tend to work on several projects at one time, so in between they can get a bit dirty. Maybe look for a seperate post on doing the wrinkles - don't want to rob this one. Harold Semper Fi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlespattison Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 You cant use G model engines on a D to make it an F, the F had engines common only to the F...To make an F from the monogram kit you will need the decals and the Golden Dragon engines, and possiblily some hound dogs also from GD Anybody willing to part with/not using their Hound dogs for their kits? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 I put some wrinkles in the nose of my BUFF by using a small rounded scalpel blade. Looks pretty good so far. I got my early B-52 from the trading spot on the board here. Got a good deal on it, usually on ebay they go for way too much. I actually have two, and am thinking of trading one of the earlies for another H model. I was a kid at Kincheloe AFB back in 75-77 and was thinking of doing one of the 449th's birds. I was under the impression that the engines on the F and the G model were one in the same, I have a ton of reference photos and they all appear identical to me. That said, I do have a set of F engine pods on back order from Golden Dragon, I just hope they ship as promised... Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fiddler Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) The F engines are allmost the same except for an exhaust that is situated on a bulb. That's the only thing what was different I thought. By the way if you want you can easily make an E from the D since they had the same looks, but you canload these with Hounddogs... IIRC only a few Ds were retrofitted to missile carriers and most of them were just mudmovers. E models allways operated stateside for atomic alert missions (Could be that they went overseas also for alert missions). Here's what I plan to do. B-52D SEA colors B-52E Chrome dome B-52F Casper the friendly ghost (Black oversprayed chrome dome) B-52G El Lobo II from the Secret Squirel ODS opening mission edit: seems there is no exhaust in the bubble, here you can see the difference Edited March 19, 2008 by Fiddler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryt Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 The "F" model engine nacelles were unique to that model as they had two fairing on the left side. The lower fairing is the Alternator Housing and the other one is oblong and centered on the nacelle. I don't know the purpose of the second faring however it wasn't on the "G" model, it only had the the Alternator Housing. The Golden Dragon "G" engines are actually the "F" engine pods, to do a "G" model you have cut off the small fairing on left side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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