Keith Diamond Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 AF.mil The museum's aircraft, serial number 91-4003, was one of nine built for engineering, manufacture and development testing in 1999, and became the first F-22 to launch an AIM-120 air-to-air missile at supersonic speeds. After completing its test program, the aircraft came to the museum and was restored by the museum's restoration team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Thought the AF would've restored the EMD birds to line status. . . oh well! Ves Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Wouldn't they want to at least keep it on hand for spares? I mean, I know that as a test bird they've probably flown the hell out it, but it does seem weird to me that with the few airplanes we've purchased that they're not doing more with this one (but then, I don't know much about that airframe... is it even still flyable?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Diamond Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 That was there in October when I visited,unless this is a different one. That's one of the YF-22s So there were 9 EMD aircraft right? One is at the museum, one went to Tyndall as a ground trainer, I heard one went somewhere for more testing, any ideas about the rest? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 The first 9 jets are not production representative, in addition, ship 3 was the one that went through a massive overstress. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 ok, that would better explain why it got museum duty. You can bet Dayton is proud of that one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Funny how it has the FF painted on it's tail now and the nose probe gone. Nice to have both this plane and the original YF-22 there now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 The YF-22 that Flying Fort pictured looks like the one that LM displayed at Dobbins AFB/Nas Atlanta Airshows years ago. Heard that it was a prototype mock up that never flew. Just what I heard. Intresting, huh? Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 The YF-22 that Flying Fort pictured looks like the one that LM displayed at Dobbins AFB/Nas Atlanta Airshows years ago. Heard that it was a prototype mock up that never flew. Just what I heard. Intresting, huh?Chuck That is interesting as I've never heard of a YF-22 mockup before and that the two built were flown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 The F-22 makes a very nice addition to the Museum. I hope that I get a chance to go see it soon. Darwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CRASCA Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 (edited) This is the #3 Raptor, and I was told by a certain Resident Raptor Officianado that this was the bird that was used for high gains flight testing and was grounded after experiencing "massive over G's." We were treated to a tour of the restoration hangar while it was in the process of being made "museum ready" and the YF-22 still resided inside the actual museum........I wonder where they have that now?? These and many other photos from the Museum and Dayton Airshow can be found in our September 2007 issue. Anyway, enjoy! Craig Edited January 27, 2008 by CRASCA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alternative 4 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Is that a Mig-25 in the background? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Looks like it is. Click me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CRASCA Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 (edited) Is that a Mig-25 in the background? Yes - in fact I was standing on a ladder next to the Foxbat when I took the 1st shot back down at the Raptor. It was dug out of the sand in Iraq during the Gulf War, and was (is) missing some key ingredients - including one of the hor. stabs. Some of my pics of the Foxbat are on the AF Museum site - check out the link. http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheet...a.asp?fsID=8752 Edited January 27, 2008 by CRASCA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoBlue96 Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Funny how it has the FF painted on it's tail now and the nose probe gone. Nice to have both this plane and the original YF-22 there now. To my knowledge, ship three never had a nose probe. Aircraft one and two are easily identifiable because they had blade antennas and a nose probe. Ship three and on all have conformal antennas and no probe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Those are very nice pics there Craig! To my knowledge, ship three never had a nose probe. Aircraft one and two are easily identifiable because they had blade antennas and a nose probe. Ship three and on all have conformal antennas and no probe. I believe Raptor 4003 did have a nose probe and all: The first Raptor that didn't have a test nose probe is Raptor 4004 which I believe is the one you were thinking of: It was the first true integrated avionics Raptor and was first piloted by Lockheed's Chief Test Pilot Brett Luedke on November 15, 2000 from what I read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GoBlue96 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Those are very nice pics there Craig!I believe Raptor 4003 did have a nose probe and all: The first Raptor that didn't have a test nose probe is Raptor 4004 which I believe is the one you were thinking of: It was the first true integrated avionics Raptor and was first piloted by Lockheed's Chief Test Pilot Brett Luedke on November 15, 2000 from what I read. Yep, obviously you are correct. I was a ship off apparently. Thank you!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 OMGGG! :) A Foxbat, stateside!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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