laval66 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 This may be a bit of a silly question, but I have been using ModelMaster Gunmetal color paint, and everytime I use it, it seems to come out as a sort of mostly greenish mix of dark gray and forest green. Is this the proper color that should be showing up? Is there a better color or paint brand for this color? I suppose it is listed as "Metallic" on the Hobby Boss kit directions that I have, as well, if that is of any identification help. Thanks for any assistance! E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticWeapons Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hmm, funny mine comes out blue! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lock n' Load Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 And my comes out brown! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticWeapons Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 And my comes out brown! Uh, I'm not going there..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lock n' Load Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I JUST REALIZED WHAT I SAID Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOC262 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Floquil (the RailRoad colors line) makes a very nice gun metal, though it doesn't have that "blued" look one would expect for color named "Gun Metal". It's like a dark silver, airbrushes beautifully and lays down very shiny. I recently used it for some of the area around a Phantom's tail and IMHO it looks great. It's one of their regular enamel paints--I thin it with mineral spirits and a few drops of lacquer thinner to speed up the drying time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I've used it more than once, and it's always had a blue tinge to it......go figure... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GGoheen Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 You can certainly use Alclad II lacquers for a more realistic metallic finish. Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edgar Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 For "gun" Gun-metal, I've found nothing to beat matt black paint, coated in powdered pencil lead. Edgar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
72linerlover Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 For "gun" Gun-metal, I've found nothing to beat matt black paint, coated in powdered pencil lead.Edgar That's the way! Really I prefer to mix flat black with aluminum in a variable ratio according to the shade you need. Than the pencil treatment. I never bought a gun metal color. Sometimes a gloss black (always mixed with aluminum) works too, under particular situations; in this case the pencil treatment is much shorter. Regards Euge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wffwii Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) I've been using Boltgun Metal from Citadel/Games Workshop on the last couple of kits and am quite happy with it compared to others. I think it darkens some as it dries, even so it looks even better once you apply it than it does in the bottle. Edited April 16, 2009 by wffwii Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graves_09 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I have been using the Metalizer version of MM Gunmetal and I have been happy with that color. It is mostly black with a slight blue tint. It is also very shinny and metallic looking when dry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fishwelding Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Alcald's "Jet Exhaust," particularly, has worked well for me. For airbrushing, I've also had good luck with flat black paint followed by very careful drybrushing with steel or silver, all Model Master enamels. With a new, clean, and very soft brush, this works well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
is it windy yet? Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I've been using Boltgun Metal from Citadel/Games Workshop on the last couple of kits and am quite happy with it compared to others.I think it darkens some as it dries, even so it looks even better once you apply it than it does in the bottle. Me too. Ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
laval66 Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 How do you go about mixing in the pencil shavings? This sounds like an interesting way to get a great color. That's the way! Really I prefer to mix flat black with aluminum in a variable ratio according to the shade you need. Than the pencil treatment. I never bought a gun metal color. Sometimes a gloss black (always mixed with aluminum) works too, under particular situations; in this case the pencil treatment is much shorter. Regards Euge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Isaac Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Alcald's "Jet Exhaust," particularly, has worked well for me. For airbrushing, I've also had good luck with flat black paint followed by very careful drybrushing with steel or silver, all Model Master enamels. With a new, clean, and very soft brush, this works well. You don't find jet exhaust to look a bit bronze? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
72linerlover Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 How do you go about mixing in the pencil shavings? This sounds like an interesting way to get a great color. Really I don't mix the pencil shavings. When the paint is dry I rub it with the pencil powder, with a cotton swab or a brush for small parts. Regards Euge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edgar Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) How do you go about mixing in the pencil shavings? This sounds like an interesting way to get a great color. Just grind the pencil tip into not-too-coarse sandpaper, then pick up the dust with a cotton swab (or your fingertip, if you're no too fastidious) and rub it into the paint. It clings to matt paint, which is why I prefer it. You can vary the effect by changingthe hardness/softness of the pencil lead; it's also possible to use the technique for depicting the oily seepage from under-wing empty case chutes. Edgar Edited April 17, 2009 by Edgar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rincewind Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I've been using Boltgun Metal from Citadel/Games Workshop on the last couple of kits and am quite happy with it compared to others.I think it darkens some as it dries, even so it looks even better once you apply it than it does in the bottle. That's what I use too, although it seems that some batches dry a bit too dark, and it somehow becomes like a metalic black. It might work well with the pencil dust technique mentioned on here as a highlighting tool - I'll have to try that on my next project. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nzgunnie Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Remember that there is no one 'gun metal', it all depends on what exactly you are painting. For aircraft components 'gun metal' is usually a phosphated finish, that can be anything from a dark grey to a light greenish grey. Also the amount of oil present on the finish makes a big difference. A newly cleaned phosphated component looks very pale and almost chalky until it gets a film of oil. American weapons like the .50 Browning or M60 have a phosphated finish. For blued guns (as opposed to phosphated) the finish can be anything from a deep blue-black to a deep brown or even a mid grey. Older weapons tend to fall into this catagory, especially British and German small arms. Modern guns are often have components that are powder coated semi gloss black, especially weapons with alloy parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huey Gunner Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Just grind the pencil tip into not-too-coarse sandpaper, then pick up the dust with a cotton swab (or your fingertip, if you're no too fastidious) and rub it into the paint. It clings to matt paint, which is why I prefer it. You can vary the effect by changingthe hardness/softness of the pencil lead; it's also possible to use the technique for depicting the oily seepage from under-wing empty case chutes.Edgar Would this be the same technic used for useing Mig gun metal powdwe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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