Trigger Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 (edited) It concludes that "the only viable strategic survival strategy now remaining for the United States is to terminate the Joint Strike Fighter program immediately, redirect freed funding to further develop the F-22 Raptor, and employ variants of the F-22 aircraft as the primary fighter aircraft for all United States and Allied TACAIR needs." None of that would be necessary if they hadn't retired the Tomcat. Edited February 18, 2010 by Trigger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 None of that would be necessary if they hadn't retired the Tomcat. duh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gremlin30 Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 The PAK FA first flight is the cover story on last weeks Aviation Week and Space technology. The are several photos of it in flight. The PAK FA isnt painted so you can see the skin in its raw form. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastijan Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Thank you mods for deleting non-topic posts by resident comedian wannabies. Just found a high-res section of the above photo and it doesn't look photoshopped to me anymore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Thank you mods for deleting non-topic posts by resident comedian wannabies.Just found a high-res section of the above photo and it doesn't look photoshopped to me anymore You're right, seems to be real. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Please Seb, post hi res pic! Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastijan Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Unfortunaltey, I just found this section - I don't have the full photo in high res Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Originally posted a few days ago by Matej on Secret Projects. Don't think the he has highrez full pic either. Btw, Matej i working on a profile of PAK-FA. He is going to release a low-res version on Internet 8'th march. I got the full res from him a few days ago (to help him checking errors, bug fixing etc) and it looks fantastic. Really something to look forward too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) yeah, the numbers seems quite real. it's just a bit strange that they leave the tree digits prototype codes system, they had use for decades... really can't wait to see more pics... Edited February 20, 2010 by mingwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuji Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 yeah, the numbers seems quite real.it's just a bit strange that they leave the tree digits prototype codes system, they had use for decades... really can't wait to see more pics... Maybe trying to make it look more "tactical" since most inservice aircraft wear two digit Bort numbers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MiG31 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Maybe trying to make it look more "tactical" since most inservice aircraft wear two digit Bort numbers? The T10 prototypes, as well as the T10V prototypes, wore two-digit numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 "The T10 prototypes, as well as the T10V prototypes, wore two-digit numbers." your right! i remember all thoses t10 prototypes... t10-17 (blue 17) t10-26... and so on... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oroka Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 The pic is definatly real, I checked in Photoshop, there are no artifacts that would be left by a edit. Also, the clouds in the background are different and the snow on the runway is different. While it is a slightly different position as the image posted on first flight, the clouds would have been the same. Still, very sexy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shark Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Delivered. That's gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!! Shark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 higher res Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oroka Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Certainly looks like there is no RAM on the jet yet. I have doubts it will get a full coating, maybe on some of the less stealthy surfaces, but not the whole jet. The RAM on the F-22 is apparently a pain in the katookus to maintain, and quite expensive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkW Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 The RAM and other surface treatments on the F-22 and B-2 for that matter have evolved, but still are older methods. I'd suspect the Russians havet made some serious efforts to attack the number one maintenance issue for stealthy aircraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Aside from the RAM (or lack?), it appears that some of those panel lines run perpendicular. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oroka Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Maybe that is what they ment by a more cost effective level of stealth. Translucent, not invisible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Aside from the RAM (or lack?), it appears that some of those panel lines run perpendicular. Same on YF-23, and that still made it more steathy than YF-22. Someparts are clearly toothed, but that is mostly on moveable parts. Take a look on YF-23's bottom. Maybe that is what they ment by a more cost effective level of stealth. Translucent, not invisible. There is no such thing as invisible stealth planes. All of them are translucent. Yes, even the precious F-22. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FAR148 Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Delivered. :D :wub: :wub: Where can we find a high res copy? Steven L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 :D :wub: :wub:Where can we find a high res copy? Steven L There isn't any. On the internet atleast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oroka Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 There is no such thing as invisible stealth planes. All of them are translucent. Yes, even the precious F-22. It was meant as a joke. I am pretty sure the F-22 is not see through, or even semi-transparent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 It was meant as a joke. I am pretty sure the F-22 is not see through, or even semi-transparent. Okei, sorry, didn't catch sarcasm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 (edited) Cockpit, posted by flateric: Something? Edited March 1, 2010 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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