A.C.Acikgoz Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 "A Syrian warplane violated Turkey's airspace and was shot down by F-16 pilots. The jet reportedly went down near the northwestern Syrian town of Kasab amid ongoing clashes along the Turkish-Syrian border." a photo of the actual mig is here : http://www.aa.com.tr/tr/manset/304729--sinirda-suriye-ucagi-dustu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Wow! Thanks for the link. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Nice work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Stark Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Is that confirmed it was a MiG-23, or did the editor of the site pull a stock news image of a MiG-23 to go with the story because it was Syrian? Same story, showing an L-39 dropping bombs. Israeli news site showing an L-39 RT showing a Turkish F-16, but doubtful it's the actual Viper involved. Edit - Don't ask me to look at CNN. They won't report what's going on in Venezuela because they're too busy positing about mini-black holes and talking to psychics about the fate of MH370. Psychics. Edited March 23, 2014 by Tony Stark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A.C.Acikgoz Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) nobody said mig 23 officially.. I call the plane mig 23 because there are actual video at turkish televisions and syrian AC really looks like mig 23. here: http://www.sabah.com.tr/webtv/turkiye/suriye-savas-ucagi-boyle-vuruldu edit: officially anounced that it was a mig-23 http://www.tsk.tr/3_basin_yayin_faaliyetleri/3_1_basin_aciklamalari/2014/ba_04.htm Edited March 23, 2014 by A.C.Acikgoz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Stark Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 edit: officially anounced that it was a mig-23 http://www.tsk.tr/3_basin_yayin_faaliyetleri/3_1_basin_aciklamalari/2014/ba_04.htm Cool. Thanks for the confirmation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 BBC Article Doesn't look like a MiG-23 to me... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gb_madcat_sl Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 BBC Article Doesn't look like a MiG-23 to me... That's an Su-27. But it looks like a doctored image. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike C Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 That's an Su-27. But it looks like a doctored image. Mark That image on the BBC article looks more like MiG-29 to my eyes, not Su-27 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Check Six Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Cool. Thanks for the confirmation. The first thing I thought of when I read this thread and link this morning was, "Ah; Red Flag exercises have paid off!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 That image on the BBC article looks more like MiG-29 to my eyes, not Su-27 Seems to have a tail stinger and the hor-stabs strike me as more Flankery. But, the image does seem odd. Was it from an airshow? I can't recall any imagery of a flaming Flanker flutter its way into the ground. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I have no idea where BBC pulled that image from. It clearly looks doctored. It has the text "Anadolu Agency" on it, but that looks nothing like the real AA watermark. And I am having difficulty finding any image from AA that looks similar to it. The only legitimate-looking image circulating in the Turkish and international press clearly shows a fleeing MiG-23, next to the plume of the wreckage. The official explanation from the Turkish Joint Command clearly states it was a pair of MiG-23. It is likely to be an AIM-9X kill like the Mi-8 shot down a while ago, most Turkish F-16s on alert duty in that area are equipped with live AIM-9X/AIM-120 at all times. Edited March 24, 2014 by KursadA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I have no idea where BBC pulled that image from. It clearly looks doctored. It has the text "Anadolu Agency" on it, but that looks nothing like the real AA watermark. It doesn't look doctored at all. It is just crappy quality picture of russian Su-27. The only legitimate-looking image circulating in the Turkish and international press clearly shows a fleeing MiG-23, next to the plume of the wreckage. Nope. Those plumes are after it fired rocket pods, not from any damaged fighter. Besides... The official explanation from the Turkish Joint Command clearly states it was a pair of MiG-23. Yes, and it also states that one MiG-23 turned away, while the other one didn't. There was a considerable spacing between them two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vince14 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I have no idea where BBC pulled that image from. It clearly looks doctored. It has the text "Anadolu Agency" on it, but that looks nothing like the real AA watermark. And I am having difficulty finding any image from AA that looks similar to it. The only legitimate-looking image circulating in the Turkish and international press clearly shows a fleeing MiG-23, next to the plume of the wreckage. The official explanation from the Turkish Joint Command clearly states it was a pair of MiG-23. It is likely to be an AIM-9X kill like the Mi-8 shot down a while ago, most Turkish F-16s on alert duty in that area are equipped with live AIM-9X/AIM-120 at all times. The BBC uses the same style of watermark for all pictures that it uses, but does not own the copyright to; I don't think the image is doctored, at least not by the BBC, as the caption reads 'A state-owned Turkish news agency carried pictures it said showed the Syrian jet being shot down'. To me it looks like a still from a video, but whether that's from this incident or something else is anyone's guess. Vince Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Nope. It isn't anyone's guess. :) It is simply an aerodynamic effect from a flatspin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The photograph used by the BBC is of a Su27 taken at MAKS 2007 and has been doctored. See here http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=287&t=95132 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The photograph used by the BBC is of a Su27 taken at MAKS 2007 and has been doctored. See here http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=287&t=95132 There we go. Just low quality version (on purpose) of a photograph that has nothing with the incident to do. There is a video now of the MiG-23 going down, allahu snackbar warning: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SERNAK Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 The photograph used by the BBC is of a Su27 taken at MAKS 2007 and has been doctored. Totally agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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