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Airfix new tool Vulcan in 72nd scale

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IF you havent heard, then go over to another site and they are going crazzzzy over this.

Someone "accidentally" leaked the Sunday Telford announcement about 2 hours ago.

 

So, is there anyone who wants to buy my old Airfix Vulcan bomber???

 

It could be of course a hoax, but then I will have a very long build on my hands with the old kit! :)  :)

 

Best regards

Gabor

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Yeah I thought it was a hoax as it seems inconceivable that something like that would happen considering the way they kept the Hellcat secret.

 

Although having said that, it does make sense as it is right in line with their V bomber series. I hope so as I too have the old Airfix kit and I shudder every time I open the box.

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15 hours ago, ya-gabor said:

See the title? 

72nd!

 

:rolleyes: See the irony in it?

There already exists an Airfix 1/72nd scale Vulcan kit, whereas someone at Hornby needed to stir interest in a 1/48th Vulcan kit!

What makes you think that Airfix are to make a new-tool 1/72nd kit this time when they didn't follow suit with their own scam ten years ago...? Hellooo... somebody home up there? 

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Yes, sure there is a 72nd kit from Airfix of the Vulcan bomber, the only problem it is dated 1984!!! What is it, almost 40 years old! Back then completely different technology of master design/making, detailing, raised panel lines, contemporary ideas . . .

 

As we have seen very recently using a 3D scan of the real aircraft in wrong hands can mean disaster, but if used right it can produce a master piece!

Everything is possible.

 

Well, we will see in a day or two with the then official announcement at Telford. 

 

All this waiting  . . .  😊

 

Best regards

Gabor

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5 hours ago, ya-gabor said:

it is dated 1984!!!

 

:doh: Duuuuuuhhh...!!! Now, please tell us something that we still didn't know about... :wierdo:

There's just been the releasement of YET another all-resin 1/48th Vulcan B.2 kit by Icelandic Fine Arts, in case that you were still out of. That scale alone has had both the Aeroclub AND Eiriksson kits releases. What's with Hornby really bothering about the re-tooling of an old kit in 1/72nd scale?

I myself have witnessed the 1/48 Vulcan B.2 kit release hoax - box art and all - on part of Airfix with the only intention of a marketing strategy ten years ago.      

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Why wouldn't Airfix tool up a new 1/72 Vulcan? Big bombers have been popular this year with the new 1/72 BUFF kits. Hey, a new 1/48 Vulcan is great for 1/48 fans and builders but not so for 1/72 fans and builders right? A new tool Vulcan in 1/72 would be welcome news. I've built the MPC version of the Airfix Vulcan and the intakes nearly drove me bonkers. I spent at least a week filling and sanding those bloody things!  The rest of the kit went together fairly well but oh those intakes.  No bomb bay, lackluster landing gear, less then stellar wheels, zero detail in the wells, terrible burner cans, lacking cockpit details (but to be fair you can't see anything in the cockpit when its all buttoned up), no Black Buck options, lousy decals, raised/wall-like panel lines...ummm yeah, I'd take a new tool 1/72 Vulcan! But I'll keep my second old Airfix Vulcan that I have in the stash for nostalgic reasons.

 

If it happens then great! If not...oh well...life goes on... and I have a few kits in the stash to keep me busy anyways.

 

I could always build the old Airfix Vulcan in my stash..........

 

Happy Modeling all!

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Airfix has alluded to making a booboo in announcing the kit early, and conceded to that tomorrows announcement will be the 72nd Vulcan. I for one can't wait. Can make my Black Buck combo then!

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Hi Hubbie Marsten,

 

I have nothing against 48th scale kits. So if someone would make it, it is fine with me. I think it would be far too big for me so I would do only 72nd kits of anything that big. 

 

As I have said, we will see today what is prepared by Airfix for us. :coolio:

 

Best regards

Gabor

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Source: https://www.airfix.com/uk-en/news/workbench/big-news-from-airfix-at-scale-modelworld-2019

 

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Even though only 136 of these aircraft were eventually produced, they are regarded as design classics and one example in particular claimed to represent the very embodiment of the indomitable ‘British Spirit’ – our Scale Modelworld 2019 new tooling announcement is a 1/72nd scale Avro Vulcan B.2.

 

Airfix ‘Mighty Delta’ delight

 

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Absolutely stunning – this beautiful artwork will be making its debut at Scale Modelworld 2019 and used to announce the existence of our new 1/72nd scale Avro Vulcan B.2 tooling project

 

The lead up to any Scale Modelworld show can be a rather hectic period for the Airfix team. Not only do they have to get everything ready for their show attendance and quite a significant presence, but all their usual work still needs to be done, which includes preparation for the forthcoming 2020 range launch. With regard to our new 1/72nd scale Avro Vulcan B.2 announcement, this project is still relatively early in its development and the example we have available for inspection on the Airfix stand at SMW will be a prototype model and one which represents a significant investment for the company. For anyone fortunate enough to see it, this unique model represents a fascinating and rather expensive stage in the production of this magnificent new tooling project and will undoubtedly attract plenty of attention over the coming show weekend.

 

In the next edition of Workbench, we will be including a full early development review of the new Avro Vulcan tooling project, including a selection of images taken during the Scale Modelworld unveiling, the scanning of a full size Vulcan and exclusive computer generated images produced in support of this fascinating new project. For this announcement edition, please enjoy the following selection of images which are being published for the first time, in addition to discussing why the Avro Vulcan will make such a popular addition to the Airfix kit range.

 

When looking at the rather futuristic delta profile of Avro’s mighty Vulcan bomber, it can be difficult to appreciate that work on this magnificent aircraft actually began back in 1947, just a few short years after its famous predecessor, the Lancaster, had proved decisive for Bomber Command during WWII. At their Chadderton facility near Manchester, the A.V Roe design team began work on this significant project, in response to Ministry of Defence requirement B35/46, which called for an aircraft which must possess an operating range in excess of 3,350 nautical miles, be capable of speeds approaching 500 knots and have an operating ceiling of 50,000 feet. Importantly, the aircraft was also required to carry a ‘special’ payload of 10,000 imperial pounds in weight (a nuclear device), as it was intended to serve as a flying deterrent to any future threat against the UK. It has been described that these specifications represented a 100% increase in the capabilities of any previous bomber aircraft.

 

The high altitude operating requirement said much about the military thinking of the day and was intended to keep the new aircraft above the effective range of surface-to-air missile defences, making it difficult to locate on radar and too high to be intercepted by current fighter aircraft technology. The range requirement was also significant and clearly pointing to the belief that any potential future military threat would be coming from behind the shadow of the Iron Curtain. Also, with its nuclear capabilities confirming that from a weapons delivery perspective, bombing strategies would never be the same again in this nuclear age.

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A first look at some of the development images produced in support of the new Vulcan B.2 project. These skeletal images clearly show the iconic wing shape of the Vulcan and how the designer built up this section of the model. Please note that these represent development images and are being shown for illustrative purposes only

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With such demanding specifications as these, the Avro design team were quickly forced to explore revolutionary aviation concepts for their new aircraft and the adoption of a large delta wing configuration, which whilst posing some significant technological challenges, offered aerodynamic benefits which far outweigh these difficulties. They would, however, be breaking new aviation ground in developing their new jet bomber.

 

As the huge doors of Woodford aerodrome’s construction hangar were pushed back on 30th August 1952 and Avro Vulcan prototype VX770 was wheeled out onto the hardstanding outside, she must have made for a breathtaking sight. Looking absolutely resplendent in its all-over white ‘Anti-Flash’ paint finish and proudly wearing Royal Air Force insignia, what the Avro engineers had managed to produce was not only the world’s first delta bomber, but also the most advanced bomber in the world. As chief test pilot ‘Roly’ Falk embarked on the aircraft’s maiden flight, he brought the county of Lancashire to a standstill, as the population marvelled at the unusual sight of this distinctive bomber and were the first to experience an aviation phenomenon which would later become known as the ‘Vulcan Effect’.

 

Vulcan 'First Strike' – A nuclear peace keeper

 

As the Avro Vulcan entered squadron service with No.83 Squadron at RAF Waddington in July 1957, the Royal Air Force had one of the most advanced aircraft in the world at their disposal, which was at that time not only the world’s first delta bomber, but also the fastest nuclear capable bomber in the world. It seems to be something of a strange dichotomy to describe an aircraft which possessed such devastating destructive potential as Britain’s most effective peace keeping asset, but that is exactly what the Vulcan was. During the frosty relations of the Cold War, the Warsaw Pact nations were in no doubt that if they dared to launch an attack against a NATO country, the consequences of the inevitable retaliatory strike would be catastrophic. At that time, nothing represented this doomsday scenario more effectively than the mighty Avro Vulcan.

 

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Produced by the designer responsible for the new Vulcan, these development images will be on show at the Scale Modelworld show and used as a backdrop display for the resin prototype model, which will be sitting majestically in our display plinth

 

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A computer rendered 3D image showing some of the internal detail and wing structure incorporated in the new Vulcan kit

 

Absolutely central to the deterrent threat of a Vulcan nuclear strike plan was the speed at which Britain could launch an attack. This massive aircraft possessed almost fighter like performance and their crews were trained exhaustively in performing rapid reaction tactical scrambles - A Vulcan could start all four engines simultaneously with little ground support required and could be airborne in less than 5,000 feet of runway.

In this rapid reaction role, Vulcans could be dispersed to airfields all over the UK and Europe and had a launch reaction time only restricted by the readiness state of the crew – typically, a Vulcan could be in the air and heading for Russia in around four minutes, sometimes even quicker. Britain’s early warning system would allow Vulcan crews fifteen minutes notice of an impending Soviet strike, by which time as many Vulcans as possible would need to be in the air and heading for their targets.

 

Despite being one of the most attractive bombers to take to the skies, the Vulcan was a weapon of war and it was extremely effective in that role.

 

Avro Vulcan B.2 – The Ultimate Delta

 

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A thing of Cold War beauty, the Avro Vulcan B.2 has been the most heavily requested new tooling suggestion of the past few years and news of this new kit will be welcomed by many modellers

 

Despite being one of the world’s most distinctive aircraft, the technology behind the Avro Vulcan was highly advanced and as the aircraft settled into service life, a number of unforeseen problems with the original design became apparent. The most significant of these related to the installation of more powerful Rolls Royce Olympus engines and wing instability when operating the aircraft at higher speeds – this concerned designers so much that a re-design of the wing was initiated. Indeed, of the many upgrades and improvements applied to the Vulcan during its service life, the most noticeable was the change in wing size and shape.

 

By the time the definitive B.2 variant had entered service, the wing area had increased significantly and although still classed as a delta, looked quite different from the first aircraft to enter service. To cope with the increased power availability from subsequent engine upgrades and to cure the stability issues of the original straight wing design, the B.2 wing had two defined kinks in its leading edge, well forward of the profile of the original. Rather than detract from the simple aesthetics of the early Vulcan’s delta wing, the B.2 actually enhanced the profile of the aircraft, even though these changes were obviously made for reasons of operational effectiveness and not the aircraft’s appearance.

 

The service introduction of the Vulcan B.2 in July 1960 coincided with the availability of more capable nuclear weapons for the V-bomber force, both in number and destructive potential. It would also bring about a change in thinking regarding the delivery of these weapons, as significant advances in Soviet anti-aircraft technology now threatened the successful delivery of a free-fall gravity bomb. A new weapon would have to be developed in order to maintain the deterrent threat of the Vulcan and its V-bomber partners.

 

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This next exclusive trio of images feature the prototype model which will be the Airfix star of the show at Scale Modelworld 2019. Representing a significant investment for the company, this unique model plays an important part in the development of the new model, however, die to the fragile nature of its construction, will probably only ever be seen in public at this weekend’s Telford show

 

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Developed to maintain the validity of Britain’s nuclear deterrent threat, designers at Avro produced the powerful ‘Blue Steel’ air-launched, nuclear stand-off missile, which would allow V-bomber crews to launch their attacks out of the range of Soviet surface-to-air missile batteries and give them additional time to avoid the resultant blast. Further boosting the effectiveness of the V-bomber force the arrival of ‘Blue Steel’ raised the nuclear stakes in Britain’s favour once more and would have caused much consternation amongst the Warsaw Pact nations.

 

Nuclear equipped Vulcan’s were given an all over anti-flash white paint finish, which was designed to have the dual benefit of making the aircraft extremely difficult to see from the ground and in the event of a nuclear delivery, offer some reflective properties which would help to deflect any thermal energy hitting the aircraft, therefore protecting the aircraft and its crew. Mercifully, this theory was never put to the test and in actual fact, despite possessing incredible destructive power, no British bomber would ever fly with a live nuclear weapon on board, which in itself stands testament to the deterrent threat posed by the Vulcans of the nuclear V-force.

 

The mighty Avro Vulcan stands as one of the world’s most famous aircraft designs and served the Royal Air Force for 25 years, which encompassed the most dangerous nuclear period the world has ever known. It would also be involved in the longest bombing raid in the history of warfare (at that time) and was held in such affection that the Vulcan Display Flight maintain an aircraft for Airshow appearances for nine years following the type’s service withdrawal. One aircraft, XH558, would go on to be a historic aviation phenomenon and rival such acts as the Red Arrows and the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight in the aviation affections of the British public, until its enforced grounding at the end of 2015.

 

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This final image is quite magnificent and shows us all what we have to look forward to with the release of this new kit. Described as a computer rendered 3D exploded part view, it splits the new Vulcan into some of its component parts and shows some of the detail incorporated into this exciting project

 

As an icon of the British aviation industry, we know that the announcement of our newly tooled 1/72nd scale representation of this magnificent aircraft will be of great interest to modellers and the Workbench team are very much looking forward to bringing you regular updates from the project as it progresses through its various development stages. We will begin by featuring the process of scanning a real Vulcan and how this played an important role during the early stages of the project, as well as including the thoughts of the designer responsible for working on this high profile project.

For now though, we are all very much in Scale Modelworld mode and working hard presenting our new Vulcan at this year’s show, however, we hope everyone has enjoyed this special show announcement edition of the blog and a first look at our beautiful new 1/72nd scale Avro Vulcan B.2 project.

 

 

V.P.

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5 hours ago, ya-gabor said:

Hi Hubbie Marsten,

As I have said, we will see today what is prepared by Airfix for us. :coolio:

 

Hi ya-gabor,

I'm having my hat for breakfast... 

Really can't fathom those peoples at Hornby. What a waste of resources! I can only but image what a 1/48th scale Vulcan B.2 kit in that same level of detail ought to have meant to the modelling community.

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SOLD :woot.gif:! Now this is cool. A full bomb bay...finally! Cockpit detail looks really nice but unless you do not permanently attach the canopy most of that detail won't be seen.  Boxed in wheel wells. Intakes look much better then the original but I still shuddered looking at them. In all a great choice by Airfix and by no means a waste of resources for those who build 1/72 or Vulcan fans.

 

Happy modeling!

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Sorry I was not able to follow developments today live. Just got home. We had a local modelling show and had a stand with my own flight safety equipment, helmets, flight suits . . .

 

So the news leak was not a hoax. :coolio:  Nice to see a new Vulcan and the scale is right for me.

 

I know some would have preferred something bigger, sure someone will do it too.

 

Did they say when it will be out???

 

Best regards

Gabor

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2 hours ago, ya-gabor said:

Sorry I was not able to follow developments today live. Just got home. We had a local modelling show and had a stand with my own flight safety equipment, helmets, flight suits . . .

 

So the news leak was not a hoax. :coolio:  Nice to see a new Vulcan and the scale is right for me.

 

I know some would have preferred something bigger, sure someone will do it too.

 

Did they say when it will be out???

 

Best regards

Gabor


In the large press release posted just a couple of posts above, it says “November 2020”, so I’m going to go out on a limb and guess November 2020.

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OK, hold on now. Something bigger? The 1/72 kit is a decent size! I did it not that long ago with resin intakes. 48th would be awesome, but 72 is just fine on this bird. As they had already done new molds for the other two V bombers, Im not sure why anyone was doubting the possibility of this. I realize it has been being talked about for forever, but it shouldnt be at all surprising.

 

I for one will be in line for this baby.

 

 

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7 hours ago, smokeriderdon said:

 . . .  Im not sure why anyone was doubting the possibility of this.

 

 

There are so many rumours around, so many wish lists on forums where in some cases people start to believe if something is said too many times.

 

Concerning size, remember taking in hands a 72nd scale Tu-160 kit fuselage main parts. It was like a holding a Slazenger tennis racket. Imagine the same in 48th. Don’t think I have that much space. :)

 

Thanks for pointing to Nov 2020. I did not have time to read through the whole announcement last night, was pretty tired after a day at our own show, speaking to millions of people, demonstrating the workings of equipment . . . It was a long (but excellent) day.

So it is a year till we see actual plastic.

 

Best regards

Gabor

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One year till release eh... :hmmm:...heck I may build my other Airfix Vulcan in the meantime. I know I won't build it once I get the new kit. I need decals though as mine came without any.

 

When it is released we should do a V bombers group build or a bombers of the 50's, 60's, and 70's group build.

 

Happy modeling all!

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On 11/9/2019 at 11:05 PM, smokeriderdon said:

OK, hold on now. Something bigger? The 1/72 kit is a decent size! I did it not that long ago with resin intakes. 48th would be awesome, but 72 is just fine on this bird. As they had already done new molds for the other two V bombers, Im not sure why anyone was doubting the possibility of this. I realize it has been being talked about for forever, but it shouldnt be at all surprising.

 

 

Well, something tells me that I'm not going to be the only modeller in this world who'll have all three offerings of the Vulcan B.2 kits in 1/48th scale once I take delivery of the Icelandic Fine Art kit... :hmmm:

However, having had an injection-moulded 1/48th scale Vulcan kit would have been the next level.

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Well I am happy even though it is not my scale of 1/48. But having said that I keep my bomber mostly in 1/72 as they are plenty big enough. I may get started on my very old Airfix kit find I have a few update sets like Two Mike's resin intakes.

By the way I will have to some research but I don't think I can do a Black Buck Vulcan with this first release right?

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7 hours ago, skyhawk174 said:

By the way I will have to some research but I don't think I can do a Black Buck Vulcan with this first release right?

The bomb bay's full of 21 bombs in one the CAD images so Black Buck 1 and 2 should be no problem. No sign of any Shrikes yet.

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16 hours ago, skyhawk174 said:

Well I am happy even though it is not my scale of 1/48. But having said that I keep my bomber mostly in 1/72 as they are plenty big enough.

 

 

My problem about building bombers in 1/72nd scale is that they will look ridiculously undersized when displaying them next to even 1/48th scale small jets such as the Tonka, Harrier or Hawk... not to say a thing when displayed next to the Phantom, Lightning or TSR-2. :rofl: 

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