Nergol Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I'd heard that Kopro was going to release a new-mold 1/72 MiG-23BN sometime soon, and that it would be a whole lot better than the crude Cold War-era KP stuff I remember from when I was a kid. Any word on when we may see this kit available? In other news, would this be the best way to go about modelling a BN, do you think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I also read that somewhere. But I'm afraid I can't help with any updates. The KP site also isn't much help. ANY new-tool MiG-23 in 72nd would be nice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollie Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I sent them an e-mail a few months ago asking about the MiG-23BN in 1/72 and the possible re-release of the 1/48 Su-25/UBK but never got a reply............... Maybe one of our Czech members can send them an e-mail in their mother tongue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jan Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Yes, they are 'working on it' The problem is the pace. The company is now focused on different kind of business (they do mainly home appliances, if I am not mistaken). They use the tools to produce modelling stuff only when their main business is slower from time to time. They are re-releasing their old modelling stuff from time to time to get some easy cash. But development of new moulds is completely different business (labour intensive, time intensive) - so 1/72 MiG-23BN project is lowest priority for the company - in fact employees do work on the MiG-23 project in their spare time (and they are working on this for several yeras already, and project seems to be far from being finished given the priority the project has in company's business plan). It could take years before their MiG-23 is released. This is what they have so far (I agree, quality looks very fine): ...but personally, I think you will see 1/72 or 1/48 MiG-23 from Trumpeter sooner. It is sad, but it is how it is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 With a quick glance the wings and their panel lines look pretty much perfect! Didn't do any actual comparing, but the details look like they are straight from the drawings. I really do hope they got this some day together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jan Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 "some day" ... yes, this is 'realistic estimate of the release date' For more in-progress pics of new KOPRO MiG-23BN check out this link: http://www.airplanephoto.net/mig-23bn/vyroba/img00025.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollie Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Thanks Jan. It's a pity it will not be out soon. I know I would buy more than a few for the stash, and I think many others on this forum would do the same. Now let's hope the home appliances market in the Czech Republic will be a lot slower than usual in the coming months so we'll be building 1/72 Kopro MiG-23BNs this winter! And if somebody from the company might be reading this: I would welcome a re-release of the 1/48 Su-25K and UBK too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jan Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 (edited) If you want to talk to KOPRO directly, go here: http://www.ipmsnymburk.com/forum/viewtema....idp=&idc=41 The discussion thread is in Czech, but guys from KOPRO will understand if you write something in English. ...but..I doubt you will make them release Mig-23 before this Christmas ..the problem with this is that guys from KOPRO who work on MiG-23 are nice and enthusiastic, and are happy to answer most of the questions... but what counts in the end is the main business focus of the company, and how KOPRO management allocate time of guys who work on MiG-23 ...welcome to capitalism mate :) Edited May 28, 2007 by Jan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nergol Posted May 28, 2007 Author Share Posted May 28, 2007 Well, I'll be saving my Albatros "Caribbean Falcons" Cuban MiG-23BN decals for that Kopro kit for sure! As soon as they deliver it, I'll buy one! Those molds look great - years ahead of the Cold War-era KP kits I remember. Come on... take a break from building refrigerators and give us something useful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nergol Posted May 28, 2007 Author Share Posted May 28, 2007 As an aside, if one really likes Kopro model kits, does that mean that one has Koprophilia? I wonder... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 (edited) As an aside, if one really likes Kopro model kits, does that mean that one has Koprophilia? ;) I am a koprophile: 1) the kits were often the most accurate kits when they were released 2) the kits were cheap (in Western Europe at least...) 3) the detailing was great at the time: beautiful surface detailing (raised but petite rivets), detailed wheel wells and sometimes cockpit detailing (I'm thinking about the Avia S-199). It's clear to me that the guys who did the toolings loved their job and the planes they wanted to depict 4) informative instruction sheet 5) sturdy packaging with wonderful matchbox quality cardboard Czech modelers who lived in communist Czechoslovakia may not think the same way of course... Wouldn't it be nice to make a Kopro groupbuild ? Edited May 28, 2007 by Laurent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 intill then...ill just keep kitbashing hase/academy kits together exept sad news is academy has stopped making the mig-23 kits!!!!!!! yes, i cried! :unsure: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Roberts Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 <clip>exept sad news is academy has stopped making the mig-23 kits!!!!!!! yes, i cried! Hmmm wonder if Academy knows something we don't.... Come on we want a new Flogger (especially in 48th!) :unsure: Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 intill then...ill just keep kitbashing hase/academy kits together And that we already knew! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farmerboy Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Well, I'll be saving my Albatros "Caribbean Falcons" Cuban MiG-23BN decals for that Kopro kit for sure! As soon as they deliver it, I'll buy one! Those molds look great - years ahead of the Cold War-era KP kits I remember. Come on... take a break from building refrigerators and give us something useful! of course you know part of the deal with me selling you the Caribean Falcons sheet was pics of the Mig 23!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollie Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Bump! Any of our Czech members hear anything? I just tried http://www.kopro.net , but that site seems to be dead.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) I just tried http://www.kopro.net , but that site seems to be dead.... There modelling activity site seems dead yes. Their main site isn't: http://www.kp-kopro.cz/index.htm Edited July 4, 2008 by Laurent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 intill then...ill just keep kitbashing hase/academy kits together :Dexept sad news is academy has stopped making the mig-23 kits!!!!!!! yes, i cried! What! Academy has stopped making the Mig-23 kits? Then I'd better hurry and grab a few of those! Btw, how do you feel about the Academy Mig-27? Worth getting it? Looking at the box pics at my local hobby shop, the cockpit area/fuselage somehow seems too high to me. TIA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonW Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I've got several of the Academy MiG-23's and 27's, a Hasegawa 27, a Heller 23 and several of the Zvezda/Italeri 23's and 27's. The Academy kit is not bad, and is probably the easiest way to make an attempt at t 23BN. The fit is decent. It is merely a reverse engineered Hasegawa kit with recessed panel lines instead of raised. Without a lot of work, you'd be hard pressed to get an accurate 23/27 out of the 1/72 kits that are available currently. The Zvezda kits look to be the most accurate, but still have errors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Btw, how do you feel about the Academy Mig-27? Worth getting it? Looking at the box pics at my local hobby shop, the cockpit area/fuselage somehow seems too high to me. I don't know but Raymond binned it: http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....howtopic=130616 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
auhlik Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Just a short notice: KOPRO ceased the plastic model kits business and sold all molds and accompanying tools to a private company. At this time the future of any KOPRO models is just not visible. Let's see in the following months. This is the news as published on a Czech local modeling site. HTH S. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pollie Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Just a short notice: KOPRO ceased the plastic model kits business and sold all molds and accompanying tools to a private company. At this time the future of any KOPRO models is just not visible.Let's see in the following months. This is the news as published on a Czech local modeling site. Hmm, that could be good news or bad news! Thanks for the info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Holy! Look what i found here through a friend of mine: http://www.hobbyshop.cz/inshop/ MiG-23 BN: Nr 1 Nr 2 Nr 3 Nr 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Hmm... Most interesting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) I have emailed the shop now. Waiting for answer. BTW: KP/Kopro doesnt seem dead....At least it looks like it is somekind of Zombie. Because in the Model Airplane International (2008 july issue 36) there is a KP kit listed in "new" section. It is a twin pack La-5 in 1/72. Rebox. But still! It looks like KP is moving... Edited August 13, 2008 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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