sv51macross Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Just got home for thanksgiving, and the package from China was waiting for me!! Before break is over, a Norwegian jet with Sniper and Penguin will be built, and I'm going to take advantage of the droppable leading flaps and make it doing a high-G turn! ::): (yeah, I know the AM can't carry the Penguin, but what the heck else will I use it for?) But nayway I've begun putting it together and oh my! The fit and detail are just excuisite (sorry forgot how to spell that). To nayone who doubts this kit, buy it! The ejection pins can always be cut off and sanded. If I have one bugaboo its that there are too many bits and I actually have to check the directions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PNW_Modeler Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I still haven't seen mine =( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 You'll really be pleased. I've progressed fairly far, and fit is literally almost tamigawa like. [ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ALL]: The ejector pins on the inside of the intake trunking are very fixable. I have a set of dog nail-trimmers, which are like a set of sprue nippers except they are mounted at a 60 degree angle to the shaft. It goes in ftom the top and cleanly cuts the pin off the curved surface rather nicely. But anyway, as I said the fit is very nice. I only have two issues thus far: 1) The instrument panel does not meet the glare shield (Raymond called it the IP cover) 2) There is a bit of flash on the port chaff/flare boxes that is tricky to remove. But generally its a really good kit. Yes, the intake bits are a bit fiddly but they go together quite nicely. More updates later. Paul, I hope they come soon. Hey, you sure some punk didn't steal it off your porch again? :: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shion Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Try to finish the exhaust section. :D It need a lot of triming, cutting and sanding, but the result deserves it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BeeJee Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) As long as I have Hasegawa kits with extra stuff on my shelf I will never buy a Kinetic F-16 again. a lot of things bothers me with this new kit but the strange nose is the most visible Edited November 23, 2008 by BeeJee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 As long as I have Hasegawa kits with extra stuff on my shelf I will never buy a Kinetic F-16 again.a lot of things bothers me with this new kit but the strange nose is the most visible I dunno.... I have been following all the threads on this topic but that picture pretty much seals the deal for me. I have no issue with a few surficial defects on any kit, I can work through them. However, the outline of the Kinetic F-16 is way beyond my ability to address. The only thing I am pondering is which kit has the correct outline? Any chance the Tamiya kit is the incorrect one? I am by no means a Viper expert. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stelios2000 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) i have the same opinion with you my friend..... Kinetic F-16 is fabulus..... i cant understand why everyone says about the nose .....it might be wrong but after all i wont get in and fly it..........so.......... anyway ....the fit is very good (i am at the painting stage of the AM) and i will do it BAF. I started it as NoAF with AGM119 missiles but many norwegian friends here told me that the MLU NoAF cant carry them operational at least (why Kinetic includes them anyway???? Kinetic made an AM version after all) BUT it has some errors at the instructions... one of it, is at the parabrake spine Kinetic says at page P11(stage15) that option 1 is for Netherlands option 2 is Danish option 3 is Norwegian/Belgian the fact is that all pictures i have seen option 1 is for MLU Belgian A.F. also all the BAF F-16s has strengthened plates...nothing here from the kinetic So i guess i have to buy the Tamiya extra set of photoeched strengthened plates. the air-intake went seamless very easy and it has better fit in the fusalage than the tamiya(my opinion) photos .....soon Edited November 23, 2008 by stelios2000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) Thank God! Some proper constructive critiques- unlike 5 pages of personal bitching on BM!!!!!!!!! pays your money, takes your choice......... Edited November 23, 2008 by phantomdriver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) Got the fuselage halves togehter...phaaaabulous! It fits so well, the indents for the leading edge flaps line up perfectly and there are no gaps or anything! And for gear-up modelers, the doors fit perfectly as well! :) As for the shape issues, I do notice it, but to me, it looks okay. Its one of those things that looks better in real life than photos. In fact, If I ever build a FA-1 FERN from Yukikaze, it might actually help...But anyway, this kit is awesome! AWESOME!!!!! :: Edited November 23, 2008 by sv51macross Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hey Guys, Very interesting indeed. Can't wait to see my DJ. It'll be here soon, but in the meantime I have a question. Could someone test fit a Hasagawa or Tamiya radome on the front of the Kinetic fuse. I'd be interested to see how much deeper the lower fuse is versus the radome. Know what I mean? Could the bottom of the fuse be sanded down to meet the Hasagawa radome. If it can the Royal Resin radome could be a fix for this "issue". What do you think? Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hey Guys,Very interesting indeed. Can't wait to see my DJ. It'll be here soon, but in the meantime I have a question. Could someone test fit a Hasagawa or Tamiya radome on the front of the Kinetic fuse. I'd be interested to see how much deeper the lower fuse is versus the radome. Know what I mean? Could the bottom of the fuse be sanded down to meet the Hasagawa radome. If it can the Royal Resin radome could be a fix for this "issue". What do you think? Chuck I'm back home from college, so my three Hase F-16s are in my stash back at Tech. From what I've heard, it would be couple mm deeper than a Hasegawa, so yes, it could be sanded down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shion Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) I dunno.... I have been following all the threads on this topic but that picture pretty much seals the deal for me. I have no issue with a few surficial defects on any kit, I can work through them. However, the outline of the Kinetic F-16 is way beyond my ability to address. The only thing I am pondering is which kit has the correct outline? Any chance the Tamiya kit is the incorrect one? I am by no means a Viper expert.John I found a pretty interesting pic on HS: f-16 nose profile. Tamiya one doesn't "fell" enough. Kinetic one "fells" too much. I come to the conclusion that neither Tamiya nor Kinetic have the right profile. Edited November 23, 2008 by shion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingSnowmew Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 That nose does it for me. I'll stick with Tamiya in 48, and Revell in 72. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Another update, I have founf problem #3; The main gear doors do fit good, but they are a little too narrow and the curve is not sufficient. It looks okay but not cmpletely as good as Hasegawa. At least with the new Tamiya F-16 coming with both sets of gear doors there's hope. But I still love it! The nose I don't really mind anymore. :: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) I'm not going to say which kit is more (or less) accurate. What I will say is that a person shouldn't take the shape of one kit as gospel when evaluating other kits. This is a scan of the official General Dynamics loft line drawing, showing the correct nose profile. This is what you should be comparing your kits to: ... Edited November 24, 2008 by habu2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sv51macross Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hey Habu, BTW, the new Tamiya and Knetic Vipers need place on your site (thanks alot though for having it in the first place, excellent resource). What do you think? Horrible deformity or charming beauty mark? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Side view pictures of the Hasagawa, Tamiya and Kinetic forward fuse. with radomes tacked or taped on would answer a lot of questions. Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hey Habu, BTW, the new Tamiya and Knetic Vipers need place on your site (thanks alot though for having it in the first place, excellent resource).What do you think? Horrible deformity or charming beauty mark? He's had plenty of opportunity to give his opinion before now... I'll wager he's not giving an opinion for a reason. (IE less fuel to the fire). Enjoy your kit and worry less about what others think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Viper Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I found a pretty interesting pic on HS: f-16 nose profile. Nice photo but to much obstruction in the back to see a good nose line, for me at least. This might do the trick better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Side view of the Kinetic front fuse with radome attached for comparison to that pic anyone? Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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speedlimit Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Funny, when I saw this F-16 profile I remembered my old (5years old I think) F-16 build I did which has almost the same profile shot. Eric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otis252 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Eric, is that the Hasagawa kit? Chuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I'd say the real jet matches the GD loft line pretty well... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speedlimit Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Eric, is that the Hasagawa kit?Chuck Chuck, You'd never guess. Its the Italeri F-16 in 48th. Eric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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