Cloggy Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 As the title says above. I'm looking for photos of F-8 Crusaders in Philippines Air Force markings for a possible project, even if they are wrecked up disused Crusaders lying in a heap!. Many thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoops Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 As the title says above. I'm looking for photos of F-8 Crusaders in Philippines Air Force markings for a possible project, even if they are wrecked up disused Crusaders lying in a heap!.Many thanks. Wrecked and lying in a heap you say? I can do that: \ I think I have a few more, let me do a little searching, Hoops Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoops Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Found a few more, Sorry to say that's all that I've got. In case anybody is wondering about the very faded US markings on the aircraft, its from when they got a temporary repaint to be used in "Thirteen Days." The weather wore most of that off, but a hint of the US roundels can still be seen. Hope this helps, -Hoops Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huey Gunner Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Great, sad though, pictures. I sit back and wonder if I ever worked on any of these airframes. (VF-194 'Sader ordie. 1975-76) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fuji Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I can't begin to tell you how much I want to cry right now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Diamond Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I don't have many, but I have a handful on my desktop. So I'll get back to this topic when I get home today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huey Gunner Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I can't begin to tell you how much I want to cry right nowI'll grab a couple of beers and we'll cry together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) I've been wanting to do one of those in 1/72 for years. I got this pic in 07 on a visit to the PAF Museum. There was a 50th Anniversary book put out about ten years ago and it has several photos and a few colour profiles. If you get in touch with IPMS Philippines BAC they can probably help out. I met them during my visit and they are a good bunch of guys and gals Hope this helps Wayne Edited September 14, 2009 by Wayne Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boman Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 What actually are the Phil AF flying these days in terms of fast jets? F-5's?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoops Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 The have a few IA 63 Pampas but that's it for jets. All of the F-5s were retired quite a while ago now. A few F-5s were sitting around in the hangars next to these F-8s, in better, but still really bad condition. -Hoops Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Didn't PAF 'Saders carry a two-tone Ghost Grey wraparound scheme? I thought I saw some. EDIT: Found a pic: http://gator.crouze.com/images/f-8p_phil.jpg EDIT EDIT: It seems the wraparound scheme is actually Glossy Dark Gray (FS15327) and Glossy Neutral Gray (FS16320) http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/f/812/107/0 http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww3/f/812/107/0/1 Edited September 15, 2009 by JackMan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irving Babbitt Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Ouch! Philippine F-8's used to be a dime a dozen on Airliners.net. It would seem Airliners has lost a bit of content. Edit: I don't mean that as a snarky, backhanded remark about an obvious search. I thought I'd be able to produce at least a dozen links in as many minutes--but they aren't there any more! Edited September 15, 2009 by Irving Babbitt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan_Lotton Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Found a few more, Sorry to say that's all that I've got. In case anybody is wondering about the very faded US markings on the aircraft, its from when they got a temporary repaint to be used in "Thirteen Days." The weather wore most of that off, but a hint of the US roundels can still be seen. Hope this helps, -Hoops Oh my God.. Thats actually worse than seeing a Tomcat get taken apart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST21 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) The have a few IA 63 Pampas but that's it for jets. No Pampas. They fly Aermacchi S-211s. They look similar so its easy to be mistaken. Edited September 15, 2009 by ST21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoops Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 No Pampas. They fly Aermacchi S-211s. They look similar so its easy to be mistaken. Yeah, you're right, that's what I get for going from memory. I really should have pulled out the article from the IAPR about the Philippine Air Force before I posted. Cheers, -Hoops Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julien (UK) Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I can't begin to tell you how much I want to cry right now You and me both Julien Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cloggy Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Edit: I don't mean that as a snarky, backhanded remark about an obvious search. I thought I'd be able to produce at least a dozen links in as many minutes--but they aren't there any more! No sweat - I know what you mean. I was disappointed with the lack of Phil F-8 photos on airliners.net (I think there are 2...). I have emailed IPMS Philippines and also found a walkround on their website of what looks to be a museum example with the pale grey c/s. The photos you guys have found are really excellent but, as people have said, very sad. I really like the two-tone early 80's scheme and I think it's that which I'm more interested in. I remember seeing a few pics a long time ago (on the web) of a line of two-tone F-8's not long after they had gone out of service - wish I had downloaded the pics at the time, but hey-ho! Keep 'em coming, and thanks for all your help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
giacomo Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Here is a nice one! http://gator.crouze.com/images/f-8p_phil.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Diamond Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Diamond Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 (edited) I'd like to build a 1/32 Phil AF Crusader sometime in the future, and I hope more decals come out in the future in both 1/48 and 1/32nd. The Phil AF retired their F-5s, brought a few back, and then retired them again for good. I like their F-5s, especially in Blue Diamond markings. One of the reasons I hope someone comes out with a decent F-5A in 1/48 and 1/32 in the future. As mentioned above, the S-211s were flown as trainers for a long time, but since the retirement of the F-5s, they've taken on other roles as well. OV-10s (ex USAF) came in ~1992 to replace their T-28s. They still fly them, and have even upgraded some of them. Other aircraft include the T-41, SF-260, MG-520, S-76, UH-1, and the C-130. I think they had 3 or 4 Hercules at one point, but one crashed a few years ago, and I think only one is still operational today. They've certainly strayed from the days when they had one of the most modern air forces in the region. They used to be described as "the USAF operated by Filipinos" Edited September 16, 2009 by Keith Diamond Quote Link to post Share on other sites
omar Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Hello Friends, I am running after the same project for a while. I started to work on the camo pattern first. It seems like PAF adopted Corsair European 1 Scheme for their Crusaders with two tone grays. I haven't seen any pictures from the underside, but I believe it won't be wrong if I complete the pattern with the European 1 scheme underside. Currently I am working on markings, I will present them on the drawings as soon as possible, in the mean time I would be thankful for any kind of contributions. Best Omer ERKMEN From TURKEY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achook-achook Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 The PAF F-8s were repainted in this scheme free hand so there was no real pattern. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cloggy Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Thanks for that info. I'm still on the lookout for any more photos - in the older or newer paint schemes. The model is in the construction stage now, so it's definitely a 'goer'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
omar Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Can you help me on dimensions and positioning on wings? best Omer ERKMEN From TURKEY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MiG Mongoose Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I made a F-8 in the colours of the PAF last year, I wish I had some of these pictures back when I was grappling with the camouflage scheme. It seems I got it correct in the end I posted some pics in the insiration thread for the A-7/F-8 GB http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....howtopic=196005 As for wing insignia, I made it the same size as the fuselage insignia, which I calculated from a colour profile, they are on the port top and starboard below (just like USAF) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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