foxtwo Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 taken on a Spanish Forum...... awesome pics, showing some great details of the dark beast...... -------PICS------- Pat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
model_madness Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 That ship needs a good clean! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janman Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Thanks for posting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 That ship needs a good clean! Dont forget where Kuznetsovs is located usuly. :huh: But, yeah, repaint would be nice. But it must be a bugger to paint. :lol: Anyway, wery nice shots, thank you. One question, what is differences between landbased and naval Su-25? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Dont forget where Kuznetsovs is located usuly. :)But, yeah, repaint would be nice. But it must be a bugger to paint. :blink: Anyway, wery nice shots, thank you. One question, what is differences between landbased and naval Su-25? Navalized version (Su-25UTG) supposedly has folding wings (although for the life of me I have never seen a pic with the wings folded), an arrestor hook was added under the tail, cannon was deleted, and the parabrake housing was removed. The prototype UTG either couldn't/wouldn't carry pylons on the wings, but I've since seen pictures of the later ones with pylons on, but I've never seen what they might carry on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chappie Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 They still use ski-jumps? Interesting photos. Chappie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastijan Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 The prototype UTG either couldn't/wouldn't carry pylons on the wings, but I've since seen pictures of the later ones with pylons on, but I've never seen what they might carry on them. I have several pics with fuel tanks attached to UTG pylons... otherwise it's main goal is to train Su-33 crews Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sam_2000 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 any one nknow where these pics were taken. i find it odd that they had 2 aircraft sitting alert!! sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Navalized version (Su-25UTG) supposedly has folding wings (although for the life of me I have never seen a pic with the wings folded), an arrestor hook was added under the tail, cannon was deleted, and the parabrake housing was removed. The prototype UTG either couldn't/wouldn't carry pylons on the wings, but I've since seen pictures of the later ones with pylons on, but I've never seen what they might carry on them. I took a photo of a Su-25UTG with folded wings at a previous MAKS airshow - I'll try and dig it out. AFAIK, this was a one-off prototype from Sukhoi that never entered production The existing UTG's are 'minimal-change' variants without a folding-wing option. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toad Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Wow, those are awesome pics ! Thanks for posting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leverancier Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 any one nknow where these pics were taken. i find it odd that they had 2 aircraft sitting alert!! sean Mediteranian. Was big news some weeks ago when the russians sent a complete battlegroup in the med. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Midnight Storm Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Amazing photos! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OKB Krasnaya Zvezda Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 martin_sam_2000 Posted Today, 10:20 AM any one nknow where these pics were taken. i find it odd that they had 2 aircraft sitting alert!! sean in Marroco by the words of the guy who took the pics when he was going on the way to his job when he decided to go and check what was entering into the mediterranean, he sais that he has pics of other ships of the battle group. does anyone know where they are going? could be Krimea in Ukraine? libya maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OKB Krasnaya Zvezda Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 ok now I know they are doing exercices in the Vizcaya Gulf in the coast of Spain. heres an article (in spanish) thet you could traslate in bablefish: taken from www.lasprovincias.es " Algo asàno se contemplaba en aguas del Atlántico desde los tiempos de la Unión Soviética. Rusia ha sacado sus juguetes de guerra para enseñar los dientes a la OTAN como no lo habÃÂa hecho desde hace década y media. Desde Bruselas, sin embargo, se asegura que todo estaba pactado y que las maniobras rusas no "violan ninguna ley internacional". En los ejercicios participan diez navÃÂos y más de medio centenar de aviones y helicópteros. El presidente VladÃÂmir Putin ha dicho que su paÃÂs muestra asà"su disposición a defenderse de cualquier amenaza" y su propósito de modernizar las Fuerzas Armadas y hacerlas más eficaces. El impresionante dispositivo naval que Rusia ha emplazado a tiro de piedra de Galicia y la Bretaña francesa llegó a la zona el domingo desde tres puertos diferentes, el de Murmansk, en el mar de Barents, Kaliningrado, en el Báltico, y Sebastopol, en el mar Negro. En cuanto a los aviones, muchos volaron directamente desde la base de Engels, en la región rusa de Sarátov. Según ha explicado Ãgor Digalo, portavoz de la Armada rusa, el objetivo de las maniobras consiste en "comprobar la capacidad de combate de la flota, elevar el nivel profesional de los marinos, mejorar la coordinación con la aviación y experimentar la eficacia de los misiles, artillerÃÂa y sistema electrónico de los navÃÂos". La escuadra rusa en el golfo de Vizcaya está constituida por el portaaviones Almirante Kuznetsov, en donde se encuentra el centro de mando de todo el operativo y cuya cubierta es base para una veintena de cazabombarderos Su-33 y Su-25, además de una decena de helicópteros antisubmarinos Ka-27, utilizados también en tareas de salvamento. El Almirante Kuznetsov es uno de los pocos portaaviones capaces de disparar misiles, aunque la nave empleada más frecuentemente para tales menesteres es el crucero Moscú, buque insignia de la flota del Mar Negro. El Moscú, de acuerdo con las informaciones facilitadas por Digalo, ha sido dotado de un sistema de cohetes antinavÃÂo denominado P-500 Basalto, utilizado por primera vez con éxito el martes durante las maniobras. La formación está compuesta además por las fragatas antisubmarinos Almirante Levchenko y Almirante Chabanenko, los buques de asalto Imán y SB-36 y los barcos de apoyo Lena, Sergúei Ósipov, Nikolái ChÃÂker e Iván Bubnov. Sobre el cielo del Cantábrico vuelan además los bombarderos estratégicos Tu-160, Tu-95MS y Tu-22M3, aparatos de ataque antisubmarino Tu-142, aviones cisterna IL-78 y un avión A-50 (de vigilancia por radar tipo Awacs). El fuego está siendo, no sólo simulado por ordenador, sino también real. La agencia rusa RIA-Nóvosti asegura que el martes hubo áreas del Cantábrico que tuvieron que ser cerradas momentáneamente a la navegación. Ese mismo dÃÂa, la Royal Air Force británica interceptó dos bombarderos rusos Tu-160, que volaban hacia el "teatro de operaciones" en el golfo de Vizcaya para unirse a los ejercicios tácticos. Los aviones rusos fueron escoltados unos minutos por cazas F-16 y Tornado de la RAF. Situaciones similares se han repetido varias veces desde que, el pasado verano, Rusia decidiera reanudar las patrullas de bombarderos estratégicos a lo largo y ancho del planeta, que fueron suspendidas tras la desintegración de la URSS. Moscú acaba de reemprender también el patrullaje del Mediterráneo y el Atlántico con barcos y submarinos de su Armada. En el Cantábrico yace el submarino K-8, que se hundió en 1970 con sus 52 tripulantes al regresar de unas maniobras parecidas a las que están teniendo lugar ahora. Lo curioso es que tal tipo de adiestramiento, cuyo objetivo es ejercitarse en interceptar la flota enemiga en alta mar antes de que logre llegar a tierra, fue concebido dentro de un plan de invasión de toda Europa. El golfo de Vizcaya, en tal caso, serÃÂa el escenario en donde la Armada soviética intentarÃÂa detener a la estadounidense, presumiblemente enviada en ayuda de sus aliados europeos. Pero, según la OTAN, lo de ahora no tiene nada que ver con el pasado. El portavoz de la Alianza, James Appathurai, declaró en Bruselas que "los ejercicios no son consecuencia de un empeoramiento en las relaciones entre Rusia y Occidente". Admitió, sin embargo, que "desde hace tiempo" no se veÃÂa un despliegue naval ruso de tal magnitud. " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 They still use ski-jumps? Interesting photos.Chappie Kuznetsov have always had ski jump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Wow. Fantastic pics! Thanks for linking. I must say that the Russians build beautiful warships. The Kusnetzow, the Kirov-class, Sovremenny-class, the Udaloys... all with a very elegant yacht-like bow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zmey Smirnoff Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 You made my day, foxtwo! Thanks for posting those pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Neat pictures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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