Billabob Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I'm looking to build a couple of 1/48 F-4Ns from the mid 70s. Specifically VF-111 Sundowners and VF-51 Screaming Eagles when they were with CAG19 on the USS F.D.Roosevelt with the NM tail code.So far the only 'N' version I've found is a 1/72 Hasegawa that does have the VF-111 decals that I want but I prefer 1/48. Can anyone give me some options? Aftermarket is OK but I'm not sure about scratch building. As far a decals...I plan on painting if I cant get decals. Alan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fasteagle12 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Found this on the web: http://www.hobbybuy.com/us/prodi.asp?pid=HAS09662# It's an old posting, but the point is, the kit you're looking for, at least one of them, is out there somewhere... Good luck... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 One of Hasegawa's first 1/48 Phantom kits was the F-4B/N from the early 1980s. It has raised panel lines like their original F-4J and F-4C/D releases. Otherwise it's pretty accurate like the rest of the family. The trick is finding one. No matter what any other kit says on the box, there is *no* other 1/48 F-4B/N. Everything else is a thick wing kit with "F-4B" printed on the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ReccePhreak Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) n/t Edited May 11, 2012 by ReccePhreak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Ghost 531 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) One of the Hasegawa 1/48 F-4B/N boxings has the VF-51 "Supersonic Can Opener" markings. I had that kit and traded it to someone else for a different boxing of the same kit because my stash of Ns are reserved for my Impact Decals 531 sheet. LINKY Hasegawa released them both in one box in 1/72 ANOTHER LINKY Ooh, there's one on Ebay EBAY LINKY Edited May 11, 2012 by Grey Ghost 531 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cyrus Tan Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Someone really needs to put out a new Phantom sheet for VF-111. With all the decal manufacturers around, I'm surprised not one of them has stepped up to the plate. The only ones that came out with these markings that I'm aware of is Eagle Strike and CAM, but they are long OOP. Of course you can also source them from the Hasagawa B/N kit in 1/48 (if you can find one), but even then they're too thick to use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Cyrus, check out 4 posts above. They are coming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Oh yes, the Impact decals are the cats nuts!!! Great sheet!!!! Like everyone else I just need a bunch more B/N kits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I'll take two of the VF-111 decals please! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishthe47guy Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I am so down for two of those sheets myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cyrus Tan Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Cyrus, check out 4 posts above. They are coming. Well it's about time! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billabob Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Thanks for the replies guys. MHaz... those look sweet. If I find a kit I'll definitely want to pick one up. It looks like I don't have a lot of options as ffar as kits go if I want an authentic looking F-4N. Is the Hasegawa "Ark Royal" a true B/N? Grey Ghost531. Is the one on Ebay raised panels? How much work would it take to thin the thicker wings to the thickness for an N? Is this a reasonable thing to do? I know Cutting Edge made a conversion kit for the Tamiya 1/32 J bird. I thought I saw somewhere a kit to convert a Hasegawa J also. Anyone know anything about it? I really have my mind set on doing N phantoms since that's what I worked around on the Rosey, I'm going to keep researching. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jpk Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I thought the FDR was decommed in 77. I know the Coral Sea and Midway survived way longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 her last cruise was Oct.4, 1976 - Apr.21, 1977, with her decomm in September of 1977,,,,,this was the last cruise of the wing, also like many squadrons,,,,,VF-111 carried the markings of their last cruise until they had transititioned to the F-14A, deploying the first time as part of CVW-15 (again) in May 1979 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billabob Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Rex. You are correct! I was in VA-153. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Billabob, the Ark Royal is as close as Hasegawa got to a B/n. In fact that is the kit I used for the photo up above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Any morenews on the *new* Academy F-4B/N. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Ghost 531 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Grey Ghost531. Is the one on Ebay raised panels? How much work would it take to thin the thicker wings to the thickness for an N? Is this a reasonable thing to do? I know Cutting Edge made a conversion kit for the Tamiya 1/32 J bird. I thought I saw somewhere a kit to convert a Hasegawa J also. Anyone know anything about it? I really have my mind set on doing N phantoms since that's what I worked around on the Rosey, I'm going to keep researching. Yes, raised panel lines, the Hasegawa B/N was never updated for recessed panel lines. Cutting edge did a conversion for either the C or the J to a B/N in 1/32. It's a two part set, one base set and another for either C to B/N or J to B/N and is pretty big bucks if you find one. I have one, YAY! you can't have it! :taunt: It's possible to scratch convert a J or C to a B/N, the only aftermarket you really need are the wheels, and they are available here and there. The rest you can do with cutting and pasting and some cross-kitting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 The Midway Bicentennial boxings of the Hasegawa F -4B/N are out there also but they have raised lines like all of their B/N kit in 48th. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dsmith Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Hi Alan, If you want a recessed panel line -B/N, the only way to go without rescribing would be to backdate the Hasegawa -J kit. There is a lot more to the conversion than just the wings and wheels though. By the time you bought a Hasegawa -J and a -B to cross kit some of the parts, there would still be additional items needed, and with the cost of buying two kits, you might as well (shameless plug here) use the conversion set I offer through my line, and you can find it here Royale Resin F-4B/N Conversion This will take you most of the way there. You just need to source a cockpit and exhausts, which you would have to do anyway if you bought the -J kit. If you are doing an early -B, then I also offer the unslotted stabs here, but you wouldn't need them for an -N. Unslotted Stabs It has been a really popular conversion set, and I am working on one myself. If you have any questions, I would be happy to help you out. Cheers, -Doug :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billabob Posted May 13, 2012 Author Share Posted May 13, 2012 That's where I saw it. :yahoo:This was what I was looking for. Thanks Doug. I will definitely get one when I'm ready. The price seems reasonable too. I have the weighted wheels and drop tank for my Super Hornet. Once I get the intakes I'll close it up and finish it then start collecting phantom parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sundowner Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Just a remark , the 151000 came to VF-111 in May 1974 as a F-4N , I have no sightings of this bird as a F-4B with VF-111 . I have no BuNo for the 1972 CAG bird NL-200 . in 1973 it was the 152986 F-4B. HTH, Henk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 pic location posted in the other thread, in addition, these two aircraft are shown on one page in Colors & Markings Cags volume lol, there are 4 pictures of the 2 aircraft as Cag,,,,,,F-4B 152986, F-4B 151000, and two of F-4N 151000,,,,so, yeah,,,,"both" aircraft,,lol, gotta love Navair Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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