Stephen Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Mine arrived today from Luckymodel.com The following pictures are mine and observations are also mine. Moulded in grey plastic with recessed panel lines. The instructions are in the standard Kinetic format of a booklet, paint details are called out during building and most paints are cross referenced to Humbrol/GSI Mr colour/ Italeri Acrylic/Tamiya Vallejo Model colour and Model Air. One small flaw I have noticed is that the addition of the fan blade part to the intake is missed out in the instructions. Building options in the kit include Open canopy Open/closed airbrake Raised/lowered flaps Positionable rudder Refuelling probe Positionable nozzles The blow in doors on the intakes can be fully closed or the upper doors open Stores include 2 x ADEN cannon pods 6 x AIM-9L/M Sidewinders with dual rail option 4 x AIM-120B AMRAAM 2 x Sea Eagle 2 x 100gal drop tanks 2 x 190gal drop tanks Decal options are 1. ZD613 "Satan 1" 800Sqn FAA 2. ZH809 "Admiral's Barge" 3. ZH801/ZE696/ZD610/ZH806/ZD579 800Sqn at disbandment March 2004 4. ZH813/ZH796/XZ440/ZE690/ZH803/ZH812 801Sqn last HMS Illustrious Nov 2005 5. ZH796/ZH811/ZH804/ZH803/ZH812/ZE690 801Sqn disbandment March 2006 6. ZH802/ZH796/ZE690/ZE693/ZH812/XZ440/ZE692/ZH800 899Sqn Oct 2004 7. ZH802/ZE692/ZH800/ZD579/ZH812/XZ440/ZE690 899sqn decommissioning March 2005 The sheet is printed by Cartograf and designed by Crossdelta. There is a full set of stencilling included. Now the pictures Instruction sheet PE set Decal sheet Clear Sprue Stores sprue (There are two of these) Undercarriage/flaps Other side of above sprue Airbrake interior Pylons/radome/cannon pods Fuselage halves Fuselage halves interior Tail detail Wing parts Close up of upper wing Cockpit parts Forward landing gear bay interior shots Horizontal stabilisers/intakes and seat parts Other side As has already been pointed out there are two instrument panels and the instructions give you a choice however one of the panels C18 is for the FRS.1 cockpit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat Trebor Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Thanks Stephen very useful for my decision making. Interesting that they have put cut lines in for the FRS1 when it comes out. Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicholassagan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Good timing. I was just thinking about what is a good Harrier in 1/48. How would you say this compares to the Airfix or Tamiya kits? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Good timing. I was just thinking about what is a good Harrier in 1/48. How would you say this compares to the Airfix or Tamiya kits? Much better at first glance. The proof will be in the building but it does have better detail and the wing upper halves are moulded in one piece thus avoiding seam filling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IrishGreek Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Did I see right, was there a short shot on your vertical tail? Otherwise looks pretty nice to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Texan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Excellent! Can't wait till Sprue Brothers gets them in! Gotta have one! Can't hardly wait for the FRS.1 as well! :thumbsup:/> Edited September 5, 2014 by Big Texan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vince Maddux Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Did I see right, was there a short shot on your vertical tail? Otherwise looks pretty nice to me. Its not a short shot, the vertical fin only goes up to the fin cap on the right half , the fin cap is molded completely on the left half. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IrishGreek Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 OK Thanks! I missed that. Thanks Vince. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I don't know what the recessed lines internally are for, they match the F/A.2 stretch, but the nose is also different, the larger radome on the F/A.2 means the profile change happens well before the radome itself, so you can't chop the stretch out, join the fuselage and simply add a shorter radome (to say nothing of the vertical tail with it's pitot) . Seem like the cut lines were an idea that got left behind when it was realised turning an F/A.2 fuselage into an FRS.1 wasn't that simple. The fuselage and wings are also on their own sprues, which ties in with Kinetic having recently said that they were going to start doing whole new parts for new variants rather than adopt a heavily broken down modular approach. This is born out by the wings being F/A.2 specific too - they have to tool ones for any other tin wing Harrier. I believe they have also said the F-16XL will be tooled with two complete upper fuselages for single and twin seat variants, rather than drop in sections or modular noses as per their F-16A/B/C/D/E/F/I kits or the Tamiya Vipers. My F/A.2 arrived yesterday too, and I'm massively impressed overall - Kinetic are really upping their game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vince Maddux Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I don't know what the recessed lines internally are for, they match the F/A.2 stretch, but the nose is also different, the larger radome on the F/A.2 means the profile change happens well before the radome itself, so you can't chop the stretch out, join the fuselage and simply add a shorter radome (to say nothing of the vertical tail with it's pitot) . Seem like the cut lines were an idea that got left behind when it was realised turning an F/A.2 fuselage into an FRS.1 wasn't that simple. The fuselage and wings are also on their own sprues, which ties in with Kinetic having recently said that they were going to start doing whole new parts for new variants rather than adopt a heavily broken down modular approach. This is born out by the wings being F/A.2 specific too - they have to tool ones for any other tin wing Harrier. I believe they have also said the F-16XL will be tooled with two complete upper fuselages for single and twin seat variants, rather than drop in sections or modular noses as per their F-16A/B/C/D/E/F/I kits or the Tamiya Vipers. My F/A.2 arrived yesterday too, and I'm massively impressed overall - Kinetic are really upping their game. I looked at the pictures of the F-16XL test shots and I could see a seam running across the wings and over the fuselage behind the cockpit. As much as I would like a whole fuselage for single seat or two seat, I think it going to just be a simple inset. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I looked at the pictures of the F-16XL test shots and I could see a seam running across the wings and over the fuselage behind the cockpit. As much as I would like a whole fuselage for single seat or two seat, I think it going to just be a simple inset. They weren't test shots, the were SLI resin proofs, breakdown on them is no indication of the model's breakdown- the canopy wasn't separate on that either.They are shape checkers only. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 You need to put [/img] at the end of every image link if you want them to appear in your posting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vince Maddux Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 They weren't test shots, the were SLI resin proofs, breakdown on them is no indication of the model's breakdown- the canopy wasn't separate on that either.They are shape checkers only. Oh OK, thats good to know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Oh OK, thats good to know Looks like you copied the direct link and chopped the end off. You can edit jut by copying the direct link and pasting it in your text, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChippyWho Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Many thanks for this helpful review. Encouraging enough to make the FRS1 look like a good prospect! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pookie Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) it looks like Photobucket or this forum is not letting the img tag work. Edited September 7, 2014 by pookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mfezi Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I hope you don't mind, but I quoted you with the tags changed slightly so the images show up: Now the pictures Instruction sheet PE set Decal sheet Clear Sprue Stores sprue (There are two of these) Undercarriage/flaps Other side of above sprue Airbrake interior Pylons/radome/cannon pods Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mfezi Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Continuing, as only a limited number of pictures are allowed per post: Fuselage halves Fuselage halves interior Tail detail Wing parts Close up of upper wing Cockpit parts Forward landing gear bay interior shots Horizontal stabilisers/intakes and seat parts Other side As has already been pointed out there are two instrument panels and the instructions give you a choice however one of the panels C18 is for the FRS.1 cockpit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pookie Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) The score lines inside the rear fuselage seem to be a the right place and the right size of the actual fuselage modifications of the FRS1. If you remove that section, use the FRS1 nose, remove the leading edge dynamic pressure sensor, the wing leading edge notch, and relocate the pilot tube to the nose, you got an FRS1 on the outside. Edited September 7, 2014 by pookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I like it, nice decal sheet too. Thanks for the pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petarvu Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Got mine today. Looks crisp ,excellent value for the money. Unlike KH. I hope their Mirage family will follow the same trend and we won't have to wait for more Harrier versions long.. Well done Kinetic P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The score lines inside the rear fuselage seem to be a the right place and the right size of the actual fuselage modifications of the FRS1. If you remove that section, use the FRS1 nose, remove the leading edge dynamic pressure sensor, the wing leading edge notch, and relocate the pilot tube to the nose, you got an FRS1 on the outside. But you'd have to add an entirely new nose because of the contour change leading up the F/A.2 radome, and there's no cut lines on the nose of the part to facilitate this. I think this is a just amn artefact from the time when Kinetic *THOUGHT* that they could account for FRS.1 this way before realising that an all new fuselage was the only way without multiple cut and shuts, something they have said they will actively steer away from in future. Unless of course you just mean a way for the impatient modeller to get to an FRS.1 without waiting for a Kinetic release! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pookie Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) But you'd have to add an entirely new nose because of the contour change leading up the F/A.2 radome, and there's no cut lines on the nose of the part to facilitate this. I think this is a just amn artefact from the time when Kinetic *THOUGHT* that they could account for FRS.1 this way before realising that an all new fuselage was the only way without multiple cut and shuts, something they have said they will actively steer away from in future. Unless of course you just mean a way for the impatient modeller to get to an FRS.1 without waiting for a Kinetic release! That's not really the case. I have the summer 2000 World air power book that covered the sea harrier. They have a picture there showing the mods needed to convert the FRS1 to FA2. You can clearly see the original nose was used. They added a plug between the radar fairing and the fuselage to make the transition. The modifications were painted primer yellow over the regular paint job. I am refering to the early FA2 which were converted FRS1, not freshly built FA2. Going from FA2 to FRS1 is a simple as gluing the FRS1 radar fairing to the FA2 and sanding the joint smooth. Going from FRS1 to FA2 would be more complicated. EDIT: I just re read the whole article and according to the info back in 2000 when that book was written, the new built FA2 (aka FA.Mk2) used the FRS1 forward fuselage with the FA2 radar fairing and plug. Edited September 8, 2014 by pookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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