SebastianP Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Got a question for Murph and company: What do the external stores pylons on the Raptor look like, and how would the rails be mounted onto them if it's carrying externally slung AMRAAMs? I'm pretty certain the kit pylons supplied by Italeri aren't any good, if only because they mostly never are, but can they be modded into the real thing? And is it feasible to construct missile a twin rail assembly from Hasegawa's F-15 rails? Since I've never seen a photo of the real thing with external weapons mounted, I've been thinking about just going with the Italeri pylon, with a pair of rearend-joined F-15 rails added to the bottom, because no one who'll be able to say I'm wrong will ever see it, but I'd like to check first if there are any pics at all available first... A further question is what kind of tanks the Raptor uses - are they the same ones as the F-15, or are they different somehow? SP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mandrake Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 (edited) Got a question for Murph and company:What do the external stores pylons on the Raptor look like, and how would the rails be mounted onto them if it's carrying externally slung AMRAAMs? I'm pretty certain the kit pylons supplied by Italeri aren't any good, if only because they mostly never are, but can they be modded into the real thing? And is it feasible to construct missile a twin rail assembly from Hasegawa's F-15 rails? Since I've never seen a photo of the real thing with external weapons mounted, I've been thinking about just going with the Italeri pylon, with a pair of rearend-joined F-15 rails added to the bottom, because no one who'll be able to say I'm wrong will ever see it, but I'd like to check first if there are any pics at all available first... A further question is what kind of tanks the Raptor uses - are they the same ones as the F-15, or are they different somehow? SP Only thing I've seen mounted on Raptor is a pair of fuel tanks, which were for ground testing only. External options do exist but beyond ferrying I'm not sure the likelyhood of such a load would be for obvious reasons. Edited February 16, 2006 by Mandrake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raptor22 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) Here's a diagram... and here's a pic of the fuel tanks and here's a small pic of it carrying it in the air with AMRAAMs... (looking for a bigger pic now) Edited February 16, 2006 by raptor22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liberator24 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I just want to say THANK YOU ARC for setting us up with the greatest references for our favorite birds. The killin kind!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SebastianP Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 Would those be Eagle tanks, or the ones that go on the Mitsubishi F-2? I've got lots of F-15 tanks laying around, since there's between one and three left over every time I build an F-15, but the only F-2 tanks I have are for my F-2... It also looks *very* much like they used the same pylons as on the F-16 inboard station - is this correct? If so, then I have what I need... SP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Here's a picture of a test jet with the outboard pylons fitted and AIM-120's mounted. The tanks look like F-15 nestables. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollie T-Y Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 To be honest, i dont like the look of Raptors with the outboard pylons, i think it looks a bit silly But Oh Well, its your choice, not mine!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mlicari Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Don't the external stores defeat the "stealth" purpose of the design of the plane? I thought that was the main reason for having the weapons stored internally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vliegenier Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Don't the external stores defeat the "stealth" purpose of the design of the plane? I thought that was the main reason for having the weapons stored internally. Yes, but that doesn't matter for ferry flights - only concern is drag in that case . :) Stef Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Don't the external stores defeat the "stealth" purpose of the design of the plane? I thought that was the main reason for having the weapons stored internally. Once air-dominance has been achieved (IADS threat supressed, etc.) an F-22 can then carry external tanks as well as extra AAMs for longer CAPs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mkimages Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Here is a page from Alan Radecki's Mojave Airport Weblog showing a Raptor from Edwards doing T&G's with two tanks. I didn't like the look with underwing stores at first, but it seems to be an acquired taste, much like the appearance of the Raptor itself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shinigami Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hmm are those external hardpoints wired/stressed for A/G munitions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fishwelding Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Is the F-22 capable of carrying 'special stores?" (B61s, I presume). On the F-16 cockpit at Wright-Pat, I saw the special stores switch-thing off to one side, and just stared for a moment. It's not hitched up to anything (the cockpit section is sawed out of an airplane!), but it's like the emergency escape handles on airliners, or Greyhoud bus windows. There's an unholy, sinister temptation to operate it. B) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Here is a page from Alan Radecki's Mojave Airport Weblog showing a Raptor from Edwards doing T&G's with two tanks. I didn't like the look with underwing stores at first, but it seems to be an acquired taste, much like the appearance of the Raptor itself.B) SebastianP asked this a little while ago - are those the same tanks as used on the F-2 (?what are they...610 gal?). I think they look more like the F-2's tanks than the F-15's, but I've been wrong before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Is the F-22 capable of carrying 'special stores?" (B61s, I presume). I think it can.....at least in the Electronic Arts game F-22 Lightning 3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollie T-Y Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 ^^^^^^^^ lol yeah, i suppose it does look kinda cool with the fuel tanks, but i still like the stealthier 'version' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 LOL, what those diagrams DON'T show you is the ultra top-secret internal Golf-club carriage.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Here's an interesting picture just posted at the key-forum: http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachmen...chmentid=115647 Cheers, Deino :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I wonder when it will replace the F-15C and E. They seem to be going all out to get it, like they did with the F-15E. And the F-15E was an inferior replacment to the F-111F in the bombing roll anyway. [can carry the same twice as far, or twice as much to the same target before you ask] I think Ill be getting an Italeri kit and loading it up as an F-15E complete with LN tail codes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Here's a picture of a test jet with the outboard pylons fitted and AIM-120's mounted. The tanks look like F-15 nestables.Regards, Murph Here's it in very big scale !!!! http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachmen...chmentid=115648 Deino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 What exact pylon/adapter/launcher combo is used in this picture? To do this in 1/48, we have the pylon from academy kit but do we have the adapter/launcher from any source? It looks similar to f-18 ones but I am not sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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