RipVW Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 OK, ok . . . I'm letting my lack of Hog-awareness show here but I'm wondering if there's any leading external indication that a particular Hog is a C model versus an A model. I know the cockpit's different, but are there any new antennas or removed items that would provide me with a hint?? Thanks in advance for anyone's help on this. ATB - - Rip - PS - I think I shot one but I'm not sure - therefore the question. Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 (edited) According to THIS , the only external differance is some weapons pylon differances. The big visible change appears to be the cockpit. Edited March 16, 2006 by Dave Williams Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I think that big orange pointy thingie on the nose is new ... But I'm no A-10 expert ... Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
kstater94 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 That's just a test instrumentation boom it won't be a regular fit to A-10C's Cheers! John Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I will let you know in a few weeks. I will be TDY to Nellis for a month to crew the jets in the "C" model test program. One way you can telll, is if its carrying a Litening or a Sniper pod it will be mounted on station 10 rather than Station 9. This allows us our othe Maverick capable station back. I understand there is another antenna biut I am not sure on that (But I will be shortly!! <_< ) Link to post Share on other sites
SimFixer Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Love the program patch! ;) Gotta watch for that one on ebay in the future. Link to post Share on other sites
chek Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 That's just a test instrumentation boomit won't be a regular fit to A-10C's Cheers! John That's a shame. A big orange pointy thing would be a sure-fire indentifier. ;) Link to post Share on other sites
RipVW Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 Hey Boom - I knew you'd reply! How are things in Raven City? Do you know of anyone on the inside that might be tracking the mods by tail number? I shot a pristine Hog at DM the other day, just out of depot - Really fresh paint - no wing or squadron markings, and it took off solo. I thought I may have spotted my first C model at DM. However, it was clean. No load outs on any station. It was probably one of the A models just back from depot after Phase. Thanks to all for the replys - you confirmed what I thought was the Hog C situation. ATB - - Rip - Link to post Share on other sites
jmel Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 PS - I think I shot one but I'm not sure Yeah? prove it!! Jake Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 That's a shame. A big orange pointy thing would be a sure-fire indentifier. A bayonet to go with the gun, perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
chek Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 A bayonet to go with the gun, perhaps? Now that's what I call close air support Link to post Share on other sites
RipVW Posted March 17, 2006 Author Share Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) OK Jake - Here it is: I'm pretty sure it's an A just out of phase. She was carrying two mav's and practice bombs (my mistake earlier with the no-load comment) and I would have to believe that if it was a C headed for the East Tac Range - It would have had a litening pod installed too. ATB - - Rip - Edited March 17, 2006 by RipVW Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Hey Boom - I knew you'd reply! How are things in Raven City?Do you know of anyone on the inside that might be tracking the mods by tail number? I shot a pristine Hog at DM the other day, just out of depot - Really fresh paint - no wing or squadron markings, and it took off solo. I thought I may have spotted my first C model at DM. However, it was clean. No load outs on any station. It was probably one of the A models just back from depot after Phase. Thanks to all for the replys - you confirmed what I thought was the Hog C situation. ATB - - Rip - Things are cool, rather cold actually this past week a lot of wind 30 kts sustained I will let you know when I get to nellis. Probably ajet from depot with a fresh paint job??? Craig Link to post Share on other sites
dbsmith88 Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 (edited) According to the May 2005 issue of Combat Aircraft, not much external differences between the A and C mods, just a couple of antenna. Real difference is in the cockpit and weapon systems. C hog has 2 5x5 MFDs in the pit and will have full Litening II and Sniper XR integration. That means JDAM and WCMD capability. At the time the article was written, the only C hog was 81-0989 and it was down at Eglin for evals. They said that 13 A airframes were planned for upgrade to the C. C is planned for deployment to operational squadrons in 2008. Regards, Brian Edited March 18, 2006 by dbsmith88 Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Surely a few more than 13 will get it before it's over? Ves Link to post Share on other sites
dbsmith88 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Surely a few more than 13 will get it before it's over?Ves I imagine so. The current contract covers the cost for only 13. Regards, Brian Link to post Share on other sites
Mark S. Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Gents: AF Times had an article on the A-10C program yesterday. According to them the 23FG and Maryland ANG will be the first units receiving the A-10C next year. Mark Link to post Share on other sites
B-ONE27 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I will let you know in a few weeks. I will be TDY to Nellis for a month to crew the jets in the "C" model test program. One way you can telll, is if its carrying a Litening or a Sniper pod it will be mounted on station 10 rather than Station 9. This allows us our othe Maverick capable station back. I understand there is another antenna biut I am not sure on that (But I will be shortly!! :D ) Hey Boom- A little off topic, but what's the deal with the F-105 and TA-4J on the line at 175th Wing-you guys going retro or what or I get it-providing the HAWGS with targets to hit priot to landing I know they have to be musuem pieces from across the airfield, but what gives, surely if you guys are having an open house you can call on some fellow guard units to bring down an F-16 or two :huh: Link to post Share on other sites
3Dguy Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 From what I've read one good way to tell a "C" is that there is a round flat dome behind the canopy. This is the GPS thingy that was added for the "C" upgrades. Link to post Share on other sites
mungo1974 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 From what I've read one good way to tell a "C" is that there is a round flat dome behind the canopy. This is the GPS thingy that was added for the "C" upgrades. the GPS is fitted to regular A/OA-10's too. Who's getting these A-10C's??? Active Duty or Guard? :D Link to post Share on other sites
Rick in Maine Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 This doesn't show in any of the pictures but I thought I read somewhere that the A-10C engine nacelles would have a bit smaller diameter in the middle. Sort of a wasp-waisted appearance. Danged if I can remember where I saw that. Maybe I'm having a brain-cramp! Rick in Maine Link to post Share on other sites
aim9xray Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 This doesn't show in any of the pictures but I thought I read somewhere that the A-10C engine nacelles would have a bit smaller diameter in the middle. Sort of a wasp-waisted appearance. Ummm, why? To improve trans-sonic performance??? Sorry, could not resist. I don't think there will be any changes in the nacelles (unless the AF wants to remove the self-FODing feature). But in the "not sure where I read that" category; I recall reading that the "reverse scoops" on the lower left forward fuselage were removed on the A-10C prototype - they were causing airflow distortion around the AOA probe. I guess that it was OK for LASTE, but not the new mods. (The "reverse scoops" were added in the mid-80's along with the Battelle device (gun gas diverter) on the GAU-8 muzzle. ) Link to post Share on other sites
David Walker Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 (edited) That probably won't help much either as those reverse scoops have been removed on a lot of A-10As now too. For instance: And as was mentioned above, I'm thinking almost all the A-10s now have the GPS dome: Edited June 8, 2006 by David Walker Link to post Share on other sites
ravensfan6711 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Gents:AF Times had an article on the A-10C program yesterday. According to them the 23FG and Maryland ANG will be the first units receiving the A-10C next year. Mark SWEET!! Link to post Share on other sites
Guard Hog Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 All of the active A-10's now have the GPS dome, and have had it since the 2001-2002 timeframe -- it is not a mod for the C-model. Similarly, the reverse scoops have been removed on most A-10's for the past 2-3 years. They were removed in conjunction with a fire control computer upgrade, not the C-model upgrade. What is the "self-FODing" feature of the A-10's engines? -Tom Link to post Share on other sites
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