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As long as the thread has come back to life, I'll contribute some DOD Dupes I purchased years ago from the Navy Imaging Command, NAS Anacostia, DC.

F-4B152980VF-11DODLOREZ.jpg

F-4B 152980 VF-11

F-4B152316VF-161DODLOREZ.jpg

F-4B 152316 VF-161

F-4B152250VF-142DODLOREZ.jpg

F-4B 152250 VF-142

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F-4B 151482 VF-161

F-4B150414VF-32DODLOREZ.jpg

F-4B 150414 VF-32

ALL PHOTOS DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE NAVY IMAGING COMMAND

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F-4B149421.jpg

If this jet is at Lackland,it maybe the VMFAT-201 F-4B that was being un-crated when I was going through basic training in 1983,it sat on wooden blocks just off of our squadrons excercise/parade area the entire time I was in basic and Security Specialist school at Lackland.

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Thanks for bringing back all the memories. For modelling research purposes only. I didn't take the photos. Neither did the guy who lays claim to a copyright in 2003, thirty years after the a/c were returned to the States!

Best regards,

John

I'm sorry but Neill most certainly did take that photo. I scanned the original slide from his collection myself when he very kindly allowed me to use it on my web site (where the image you have used comes from).

The 2003 date is the date I chose to use, being the year I scanned it and put it into the public domain on my site. It is not intended to be an indicator of when the photo was taken. The choice of date was entirely mine and had nothing to do with Neill.

And, for anyone who might be interested, you can see more of Neill's Phantom Photos (and others too) on my web site at http://motty.hobbyvista.com.au

Cheers,

Motty.

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Not Germany (GAF)

HAF (Hellenic AF) is still using that scheme.

Germany retiert the Recce Rhino in the early 1990´s.

They were sold to Turkey & Greece.

here you find a Hellenic Recce Rhino in Norm 83 colors.

Photo taken last month!

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Greece---Ai...8c49d910f5628b7

The Hellenic RF-4's (ex Luftwaffe) are gradually being repainted in the SEA scheme with reduced size of roundels/fin flashes. The picture in the above post isn't a true Norm 83 scheme as the colours used on this particular a/c are based on FS 595 and not RAL as used by the Luftwaffe.

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I have heard that National Geographic currently gathering info and footage about the F-4 Phantom.

Nat Geo, is gonna be getting a real thorough programming check from me, anytime a Phantom is discussed I'm listening.

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I have a research request: I need pics of VMFA-333 155526. All I ever get from searches are drawings and models of it. Specially want pics of forward fuselage/canopy area.

I have pics of 155521, 155523, 155524, 155525 & 155528. All From VMFA-333.

Sorry, but no 155526.

Larry

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If this jet is at Lackland,it maybe the VMFAT-201 F-4B that was being un-crated when I was going through basic training in 1983,it sat on wooden blocks just off of our squadrons excercise/parade area the entire time I was in basic and Security Specialist school at Lackland.

Yep, pretty sure that's the one. BuNo 149421 - which sort of matches the spurious tail number. Ya take what you get I suppose!

Mark

A pic I took of 149421 back in November 2006...

F-4B.jpg

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Yep, pretty sure that's the one. BuNo 149421 - which sort of matches the spurious tail number. Ya take what you get I suppose!

Mark

A pic I took of 149421 back in November 2006...

F-4B.jpg

Nice shot!

My understanding is that at the time it was placed on display the F-4C (and D, E and G) were still in use and there were no spare airframes, so F-4Bs and Ns were placed on display instead. It seems to me that there was also an F-4B on display at Luke in the early 80s as well.

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I never really noticed it until now, but the display of 149421 looks so bad to me the more I look at it. Especially how they painted just the tip of the radome black forward of the shark's mouth. I suppose we should be happy they did something to it.

Just nitpicking I guess...

Mark

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Yep, pretty sure that's the one. BuNo 149421 - which sort of matches the spurious tail number. Ya take what you get I suppose!

Mark

A pic I took of 149421 back in November 2006...

F-4B.jpg

This is just so wrong in so many ways. Where are the gear doors and what's up with the nose gear strut?

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Incidentally, that Tornado unit is Jagdbombergeschwader 31 "Boelcke" in case you might be curious whose badge the next Luftwaffe Typhoon unit might be bearing.

That´s no secret that JaboG 31 will be the next luftwaffe squadron wich gets the EF2000.

On December 16th is the official fly-in. :thumbsup:

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Nice shot!

My understanding is that at the time it was placed on display the F-4C (and D, E and G) were still in use and there were no spare airframes, so F-4Bs and Ns were placed on display instead. It seems to me that there was also an F-4B on display at Luke in the early 80s as well.

I remember that F-4 being brought to Luke AFB. I am sure it was F-4B or N from VF-111 "Sundowners"with a sharksmouth on it.

Steve

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This is just so wrong in so many ways. Where are the gear doors and what's up with the nose gear strut?

When the USAF preps 'em for display, the gear doors get welded shut with cut-outs for the gear struts to poke through. Keeps birds from nesting in 'em, I guess. Also makes 'em look weird with the nekkid gear struts sticking down...you'd think they'd just put some sheet metal over the gear bays if they're worried about it.

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It really depends on who does the prep in my experience. I've crawled up into B-52 gear wells and bomb bays, and photographed several other display birds without covers (sheet metal, chicken wire, etc.) on display for years. Oh yea, there are bird nests up there. Shoot, birds will even get into our active flyers! All the time actually, especially in the spring. Once when I was launching a KC-135 in Turkey I watched a bird fly back and forth from the grass behind the ramp to the dry bay in the wing, each time with a load of nest material! I can't count the number of nests I've pulled out of KC-135s and C-130s during inspections! One time I found a nest with eggs in it! I didn't know about the eggs until I reached up and scooped the nest out. The eggs broke as the nest hit the ground and fell apart. What I didn't expect was the reaction of Mama Bird who was off the tail in the grass. When she saw that nest and her eggs hit the ground, boy did she get P.O.'d at me!! She started "buzzing" me and my crew as we prepped the aircraft for launch. That was strange! Kind of scary too!

I have to respect the guys who maintain the displays however. All are volunteers and do it for the love of preserving those aircraft. I've done some volunteer work myself a few times in fact, most recently helping repaint the C-47 we have on display at Dyess. If any of you get a chance to do some restoration work, please volunteer. Guys like us (modelers) are probably some of the best resources the curators of these displays could hope for.

BTW, Merry Christmas to all!

Mark

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I have over 2,000 F-4 pics from the Paul Minert collection at the National Museum of Naval Aviation. I'd be happy to post some if you guys like, but I was wondering if any of you know Paul or how to get in touch with him. I don't like to post other peoples photos without their permission, even though these were given to a public museum.

Ray

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