Dave Roof Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Ohhhh, they get my money when they model the slats (optionally) closed! Edited September 16, 2022 by Nebbor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Interesting. “Ludodactylus series?” A flying dinosaur whose name means “play finger?” 🤔 Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nebbor said: Ohhhh, they get my money when they model the slats (optionally) closed! Is it a big job to close them on the kit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, ElectroSoldier said: Is it a big job to close them on the kit? Unbuildable 🙄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Interesting subject choice by Meng, I am still hoping for F-35B and F-35C kits to complement their A kit. Of course I'm still waiting for that Tamiya F-16D as well...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Well that's out of the blue! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bsin Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, habu2 said: Interesting subject choice by Meng, I am still hoping for F-35B and F-35C kits to complement their A kit. Of course I'm still waiting for that Tamiya F-16D as well...... The Italeri F-35B is a nice kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Roof Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, Ben Brown said: Interesting. “Ludodactylus series?” A flying dinosaur whose name means “play finger?” 🤔 Ben Their F-35 and Super Hornets are in the same series. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bsin Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I hope the panel lines are finer than on their Super Hornets Hobbyboss did a terrific job on their Super Hornets! Panel line detail is real fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Meng's SH have got a little better detail and overall quality. 1/48 F/A-18 Super Hornet - Meng vs. HobbyBoss - KFS-miniatures Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Are there major external, cockpit, or ordnance differences between SEA, Euro I, and Hill Gray camo F-4Gs? For instance, is a SEA possible given the above Meng box? ZM offers the Euro I scheme which is also nice. Edited September 16, 2022 by Janissary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spang Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 If the idea of the Box art, his a Desert Storm aircraft, that's wrong. The AF69-232 fly with 81st/52TFW of Spangdahlem with Tail Code SP. With WA markings, many years after DS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Dave Roof said: Their F-35 and Super Hornets are in the same series. All Meng 1/48 kits so far with the exception of their weapons kits (called SPS-xxx by Meng) have this LS-xxx series nomenclature so far, not only F-35 or Super Hornets. LS-015 fills the gap between the announced LS-014 EA-18G and LS-016 F/A-18F Bounty Hunters kit just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Roof Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, spang said: If the idea of the Box art, his a Desert Storm aircraft, that's wrong. The AF69-232 fly with 81st/52TFW of Spangdahlem with Tail Code SP. With WA markings, many years after DS. There is nothing that states or implies it's from ODS. Those markings were carried during OSW in 96 though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, spang said: If the idea of the Box art, his a Desert Storm aircraft, that's wrong. The AF69-232 fly with 81st/52TFW of Spangdahlem with Tail Code SP. With WA markings, many years after DS. According to Wikipedia operation Desert Storm was from august 1990 to january 1991. Please define "many years", here is a photograph of 69-7232 in WA markings in september 1993 (2.5 years after the end of operation Desert Storm), taken just a few miles down the road of Spangdahlem: https://www.airfighters.com/photo/253098/M/USA-Air-Force/McDonnell-Douglas-F-4G-Phantom-II/69-7232/ And having a desert-like background on the box art does not imply operation Desert Storm per se, maybe just flying over Nevada or something. Last time I visited Nevada it looked like a desert to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Well at least they're not bombing Edwards AFB..... 😂 Edited September 16, 2022 by habu2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichB63 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nebbor said: And having a desert-like background on the box art does not imply operation Desert Storm per se, maybe just flying over Nevada or something. Last time I visited Nevada it looked like a desert to me. It’s a perfect match for Iraqi sand, as this color swatch proves 😉 Edited September 17, 2022 by RichB63 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 If this is true, I really look forward to a Meng 1/48 Phantom. If I remember my Phantomology correctly, an F-4G sets us up to easily also get a Late E model, which is still missing from the new wave of 1/48th Phantoms. I consider the "New Wave" to start with the Academy F-4B which was first issued 10 years ago. (has it really been 10 years? wow) So that includes Academy, Zoukei Mura, Tamiya, and hopefully, Meng. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeffreyK Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Maybe the market is big enough for both kits, who knows, but it's certainly an "interesting" move by Meng. With Zoukei Mura's Phantom release schedule being known for a long time... I'm quick to point out flaws with kits (and ZM is no exception) and I'm not a Fan Boy of any particular manufacturer. But I do feel for ZM, they've done a pretty good job with their F-4G (as far as I can tell), even going the extra mile of doing totally new tools for the fuselage, not re-using the sprues from their early E kit. To that end, Meng would have to at least make a modular insert to create an both an accurate E and G from the same moulds. Also, the G models had retrofitted slats so the belly/wing had the reinforcement strap. Zoukei Mura have done this in their G kit, but this rules out using it for late block E models with the stronger wing skin (and as such without the external strap). J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arnobiz Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I too feel for ZM as I really like their kits. That being said if it gives us a Meng-quality late E sooner than in 3-4 years, which is the speed at which ZM goes from one version to the next, I'm pretty happy too. It's a mystery to me why ZM is so slow at releasing subsequent versions, and why they did the G before the late E. They had better move faster this time or Meng will capture 95% of the modern tooling late E market... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geoff M Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I would not lose too much sleep over Z-M. If Phantom lovers are anything like me they will probably buy the Z-M (mine is on order) and the Meng too! Geoff M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arnobiz Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I'm not losing sleep over anyone, I'm just feeling sorry for ZM who introduced a fantastic line of kits but will most likely have its future sales cut down because they were too slow to follow up with subsequent kits. Interesting business example, that's all 😉 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebbor Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 8 hours ago, RichB63 said: It’s a perfect match for Iraqi sand, as this color swatch proves 😉 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I’m very much more interested in this Meng release than the ZM kit, although the ZM kit looks very nice. If the info on the box is correct, you’ll get retracted slats, more weapons and ECM pod options, and based on other Meng kits, you’ll probably get 3 or more decal options instead of the one for ZM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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